J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

[maozedong]

I'm pretty sure they're implying that China, "legally, illegally, and paralegally" obtained certain parts for the J-20.

In fact, some guy from Hawaii who was an Engineer who worked on the B-2 sold some secrets to the Chines governments, you can have almost no doubt that some of that knowledge was incorporated into the J-20 demonstrator.

what's the name of the guy? how old is he? where was he born? how long did he work on B-2?
I can make an another article for this:
In fact, some guy from Hawaii who was an Engineer who worked on the B-2 sold some secrets to the Russian governments, you can have almost no doubt that some of that knowledge was incorporated into the T-50 demonstrator.

 

[kroko]

The next thread to explode will be the All About The Chinese Aircraft Carrier Thread.
When the Varyag finally goes to sea I expect that thread to go off the hook!

Not as much as j-20. J-20 is indigenous. Varyag is not. It will be a great mark of PLA development, undoubtedly, but not as great as j-20. China needs to design and build its own aircraft carrier

 

[Blitzo]

Here's an older Russian design that was, in concept, a lot like the J-20. It's the MIG-MFI (1.43/1.44) program from the late 1990s. Cancelled in 1997, but they did build one prototype which, I believe, flew in 2000.

What do you think?

I think... that its configuration is all that's sort of similar with the J-20. I mean I can understand now why people would say it's influenced by Mig MFI -- but people were also saying J-10 was effectively a single engined MFI.

The two planes look sorta similar, but that's as far as I'll take it.

 

[Quickie]

J-9:

J-20:

It goes to show that some people will only look for the answer that fit their egoistic mindset. That mindset is always that the previous model has to be foreign to China, and preferably Russian. This explains why these people have completely ignored the J-9.

Looking at the J-9 planform, I notised it's almost identical to the J-20, so much so I believe the J-20 designers must have studied the research data of the J-9 to help in the design decision of the J-20.

 

[maozedong]

I find some J-10B photos that some similar to J-20:

 

[Blitzo]

I find some J-10B photos that some similar to J-20:

-gasp- are those new photos? :O

You should repost them in the J-10 thread, nice catch.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Trying to make a connection with the J-20 and the MIG 1.44 reminds me of a video on the internet where someone claims their dog barks "Mama" to its owner. And everyone seemed amazed at the dog that barks "Mama." I took someone who hadn't seen or heard of this and told him that the dog barks "dog food" when it wants to be fed. I showed him the video and he was amazed the dog asked for dog food. That's the power of suggestion. Look at how many people are claiming it's everything else especially when they want to take credit that it was stolen from them. Look at how now it's so easy to make a 5th generation stealth aircraft. All this chaotic contradictions from all directions over the J-20 is the greatest compliment of all. If it were really nothing and no big deal or so easy for everyone else to do the same then nothing would be said of it.

 

[maozedong]

-gasp- are those new photos? :O

You should repost them in the J-10 thread, nice catch.

these are new photos from bbs,but I heard that some one has saved them for quite long, until now he just released them, I am not sure for that. let me check J-10 thread, maybe some body already has posted these.

 

[siegecrossbow]

The J-10B in the picture employed window tinting. Proving that some of the systems being employed on the J-20, were, as a matter of fact, used on the J-10.

As for the wikipedia article it is now officially unreadable. I've read every speculations possible... Heavy interceptor with 0 manueverability inspite of what is very obviously a delta-canard configuration, fighter bomber despite the fact that the plane may only be a meter longer than the raptor, and strike fighter with inferior dog-fighting capabilities to 4.5 gen fighters. Did this plane really touch a nerve with people I think it did. I'm seeing so called "experts" and their masturbatory articles basically dismissing how the "Communist Gooks" could never come up with anything better than the "superior" Western planes.

 

[Red Moon]

I'm pretty sure they're implying that China, "legally, illegally, and paralegally" obtained certain parts for the J-20.

In fact, some guy from Hawaii who was an Engineer who worked on the B-2 sold some secrets to the Chines governments, you can have almost no doubt that some of that knowledge was incorporated into the J-20 demonstrator.

Frankly, I don't think the Russians would be talking about any American secrets, but Russian technology. And, generally speaking, it would be a matter of 'property', of using something without "proper permission", and not about spying.