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BoronCarbide

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Importing unskilled migrants is an absolute disaster for any country. You only bring in the absolute best and most qualified STEM talent from reputable universities to advance in science and technology.
Importing unskilled migrants is a neoliberal ideology for profit maximisation.
I suspect there are neoliberal voices advising the CPC on these issues.
Skilled migrants, depending on the country, can also be damaging to domestic labor. Before Brexit in the UK, there was a lot of racism towards Eastern Euros, the Romanians and Poles in particular. Of course there were bad apples from these populations, but a lot of the discontent stemmed from the fact that these immigrants would outcompete the classic-working class by working for less pay/longer hours etc.

Honestly, I find it strange that China has these global talent programs, even for specialist domains, because it has the largest pool of human capital in the world, so much so that it carries a lot of Anglosphere research.
 

Engineer

Major
You can retrain a Chinese model into an American model by modifying the open weights. So it's virtually impossible to prevent commercial entities from using "Chinese" models because they are no longer "Chinese" after modifying it by post-train fine tuning it. It becomes an "American" model. This is the beauty of open weight models. It's virtually un-enforceable and impossible to determine if it's originally Chinese as it's a new model. So basically you have a bunch of "American" open source models modified from Chinese original, how can US govt identify and regulate this?

Also there is no precedent for US govt regulating what open source software a commercial entity is using. So far, it's been preventing Federal agencies or govt contractor or at most copyright enforcement. Open source is virtually impossible to ban or regulate, esp. if hostable overseas cloud servers.

Enforcing a ban on open source LLM would be an even bigger loser move than banning chip exports to China or even the Iran war catastrophe
You are repeating yourself over and over again with the same crappy argument from /r/localllama.

Individuals aren't going to get to interpret what is or is not American; the US government will, and the US government will exclude those fine tunes as American, simple as that. If a business wants to claim the cost of tokens as business expense, it better has receipts from Anthropic and OpenAI. Otherwise, that business is going to have some explaining to do regarding the cash flow discrepency.
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In that case, the business will get to pick the poison of coming clean for using non-certified LLMs, or get investigated for, let's say, money laundering.

The onus of proving compliance will rest on the businesses, not the government. The US government also doesn't need to go after every single business that uses LLM. Merely going after those on the S&P500 would be enough to cause the money to be funneled back into the AI bubble.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
You know I've been thinking, did they just Star Wars program themselves by betting so heavily on AI?

Pretty much, but actually far worse.

They essentially had two viable paths left to try to compel China into an arms race where they might have a reasonable chance of winning.

The first was economic, in the form of AI.

The second was actual Star Wars 2.0 with Falcon rockets.

AI was always the far worst investment because it was obvious that even if they won that race AI was never going to deliver the magical god-like powers promised. And AI is utterly useless in the face of overwhelming hard power dominance by your opponent.

With a real Star Wars arms race, even if you loose you should still get some really useful hard power orbital and/or anti-orbital weapons. By effectively abandoning that field, the Americans have all but guaranteed that China will dominate in space now that they have materially reduced SpaceX/NASA’s technological edge. Indeed, from the prominence given to space exploration in the latest 5 year plan, we can see which path China was actually really worried and focused on. Which is doubly ironic, because China putting the foundation to rapidly deploy Real Star Wars in space would allow China to fundamentally hard counter America’s biggest and most powerful Cold War hard power endowment - its nuclear arsenal.
 

supersnoop

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So the Odyssey movie was made for 70mm IMAX. Except for the problem that the IMAX CEO says production ceased 50 years ago with about 40 movie theaters salvaging parts to keep it running. Like half the film has been cropped out.

There is also the digital GT Laser format which can display full frames.
That doesn't really increase the number as there are only 4 in China, 2 in Japan, 1 in SK

EDIT: Also wanted to mention. IMAX was originally a Canadian company (HQ in my old hometown) and there were 2 70mm venues owned by the Provinvical Government. They have been closed by Government decree, reasoning not clear.
 

Chish

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Have been using xhs for months now and I disagree. Just like every country, there are always bad apples entitled thinking they know better against their own government and their own people. It's also true that the Chinese in xhs don't dare say they love China literally, word for word, instead they wish for harmony and prosperity of their motherland or something along those lines.
Same here. Many members here also entitled themselves to know better about China and it's governance and grumble accordingly.
Why do you think it's true that Chinese in xhs don't dare to say they love China? Maybe due to algorithms ??
 

Randomuser

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So the Odyssey movie was made for 70mm IMAX. Except for the problem that the IMAX CEO says production ceased 50 years ago with about 40 movie theaters salvaging parts to keep it running. Like half the film has been cropped out.

I feel like the ruling classe of most places are not trying to hide their disdain for the ordinary people aka goyim anymore. They openly release overpriced garbage and act as disrespectful as possible because they can get away with it. Not just movies but most products.

Soon they will be shipping all of us to the front lines to act as drone fodder without blinking an eye. Their level of respect and dignity given to the average person seems to be going down each day.
 
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iewgnem

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I feel like the ruling classe of most places are not trying to hide their disdain for the ordinary people aka goyim anymore. They openly release overpriced garbage and act as disrespectful as possible because they can get away with it. Not just movies but most products.

Soon they will be shipping all of us to the front lines to act as drone fodder without blinking an eye. Their level of respect and dignity given to the average person seems to be going down each day.
You mean letting a group that's notorious for their inability to keep a state together due to their psychopathic nature take over your state might not be good for the longevity of your state?
 

A potato

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I actually hate how popular China has become nowadays. I noticed literally every scum and uneducated people regardless of which country are all literally eying China right now and wanting to come here (just reddit alone you can already see how many unqualified people are asking about ways to work in China), and many of them are in fact already here. Don't get me wrong, back then when China was poor and laws were even more laxed, there's already tons of scums and sexpats/ LosersBackHome here exploiting shit with almost no consequences, but the difference now is that way more people are aware about coming, all while protection against these people are still very much non-existent.

One of the big issues is that China (or rather businesses in China) are actually still accommodating these blue collar and unskilled people while treating them as some kind of VIPs. And as much as countries like Japan has tons of issues, but one thing I noticed about them is that they significantly raised the bar for foreigners going there nowadays, you can't just go in with you white/foreign skin and "want to be a teacher", you actually need an advanced degree (masters or PhD) or serval publications in the area of your expertise and in the field that you want to teach in order to be qualified. ALSO, while some Japanese people (or even Koreans) still possessed a level of white/foreign worship, but I noticed that it has significantly decreased over the years, while I DO NOT see much improvement in China (yes China had improved in this area, but not much at all as I said). I do not know what the future hold, but I do not like things going in this direction at all.

While I understand the importance of PR and national progress, but why can't we also have policies weeding out useless people at the same time? especially when there's already so many locals fighting for spots.

P.S. one of my biggest rage triggers is seeing Chinese parents thinking that a random white guy/ foreigner must be better at teaching English than a Chinese person, even if the Chinese individual had actual incredible background in English, which is not uncommon at all given there's literally so many Overseas born Chinese or Chinese people who are top Ivy-league/ OxBridge graduates. So, when will this mindset change? If the mindset of the people are still being poisoned, and Chinese people are still mindlessly cheapening themselves towards anything foreign, then I really see very little value in progress.
Cantonese and Minnan people - we are the last link to ancient Chinese. Mandarin is a Mongolian Language.

Also Cantonese and Minnan people - We are actually Vietnamese not Chinese because we are Baiyue.
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Like make up your minds already.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
To me its less about self-hate, (though there's plenty of that to go around) but lack of exposure. However, China has got to build its social immunity somehow. Years of dealing with foreign tourism and immigration has made Japan and Korea much more bold and direct in taking action (because foreigners are no longer as special or unique to them). China still is relatively cut off from international travel so foreigners are still rare, especially outside Tier 1 cities. In general, Chinese are often fascinated by what is exotic them and also want to be accommodating to whom they see as guests.

I do, however, hope China does not ever become dependent on tourism as France, Italy or Japan as economy interests will demand servile policies to foreign tourists.

I think a lot of that was purposely done to keep the Chinese general population in blissful ignorance while China was weak and had relatively few cards to play. Having a population that is fully exposed to the outside world can be a doubt edged sword, as exemplified by India, where the need to show ‘wins’ for domestic consumption often results in absurd behaviour by government officials as they lack the hard power to achieve said wins.

Additionally, it is far easier to hate than to love, and once hate sets in, it’s doubly hard to undo it. Having a happy, naive population gives Beijing massive leeway to act magnanimously to smooth over disputes and build bridges instead of being forced by domestic considerations to be petty and hard edged all the time.

I think this new opening up is multifaceted and has many objectives, one of the main ones is an attempt to bypass western MSM propaganda to promote grass root understanding and friendly exchanges. But the flip side is to give the Chinese domestic population far more exposure on what the outside world is like, both to help them understand how remarkable and precious what China has built really is, but also to let them see for themselves the ugly side of the world, in preparation for the possibility of war.
 

Maikeru

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Importing unskilled migrants is an absolute disaster for any country. You only bring in the absolute best and most qualified STEM talent from reputable universities to advance in science and technology.
Importing unskilled migrants is a neoliberal ideology for profit maximisation.
I suspect there are neoliberal voices advising the CPC on these issues.
Not sure about profit maximisation, more about virtue signalling and oikophobia by the ruling classes.
 
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