China's Space Program Thread II

[j17wang]

My bet is on the male newbie, Zhang Zhiyuan (张志远). According to English Wikipedia, there is apparently a Chinese athlete (rowing/crew) with the same name (in both English and Chinese) who won Gold at the 2019 Ottensheim World Championships in the Lightweight Quad Sculling event (also Silver at the 2018 Asian Games); if this is the same person, then it'd be natural to have him perform this one-year endurance event since we know that, at least to those of us who had suffered in this sport in any capacity during our youth, rowing is one of the premier endurance sporting events on par with ultra-marathons and cycling.

Not the same person, since the rower was born April 1994. However I do agree with both your logic that Zhu Yangzhu is needed to command re-entry.

Good on Zhang Zhiyuan then! Only 9 people have stayed in orbit for more than a year at once, and also gets to meet the first HK astronaut and Pakistan astronaut on same tirip!

Since this is essentially a test for deep space exploration, I assume we will shortly have a 365-day mission for the female arm of the trial as well.

 

[NoetherSpudCharge]

My bet is on the male newbie, Zhang Zhiyuan (张志远). According to English Wikipedia, there is apparently a Chinese athlete (rowing/crew) with the same name (in both English and Chinese) who won Gold at the 2019 Ottensheim World Championships in the Lightweight Quad Sculling event (also Silver at the 2018 Asian Games); if this is the same person, then it'd be natural to have him perform this one-year endurance event since we know that, at least to those of us who had suffered in this sport in any capacity during our youth, rowing is one of the premier endurance sporting events on par with ultra-marathons and cycling.

As pointed out by the member in the previous post, the SZ-23 astronaut is a dfferent person than the rower (posted piror to seeing the bio). Still, Zhang Zhiyuan is most likely to be the long-duration candidate. In addition, physiological studies of long-duration weightlessness and deep-space radiation effects on living tissue are important pursuits, but any trip to Mars (even with nuclear-thermal propulsion) still needs some form of low-g artificial gravity and EM-based radiation shielding in my opinion.

 

[RoastGooseHKer]

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Hong Kong’s first astronaut Lai Ka-ying picked for space station mission​

The former police officer will become China’s fourth woman in space, taking part in the Shenzhou-23 mission as a payload specialist

Best wishes for her and her team’s successful completion of their mission and make HKers proud

 

[TheRathalos]

Some notes from the conference:
-"everything going well" with pakistani astros training, they are currently taking Intensive chinese class
-Pre launch testing going smoothly for Chang'e 7, the CLEP and Crewed lunar program are merged in simply the "Lunar exploration progam" (which is reported by CMSA now), Chang'e 7 will be launched in the 2nd half of the year (unnoficial date is August 24th btw).
-Mengzhou flight will have "lots of space for payload specialists", the training period for a payload specialist such as Li Jiaying is about 1,700h; Yang Yuguang, in a non official capacity, mentions that Mengzhou could be used for space tourism.
-Tianzhou 10 carried a verification experiment on liquid sloshing and surface tension in tank for Mengzhou/Lanyue.
-Lunar mission crew will have veterancy on Tiangong-
-"Mengzhou/CZ-10A and Mengzhou Lunar landing system/CZ-10 are designed as one integrated system and will be validated through multiple trips to Tiangong over the next 2 years" (effectively confirms there will be further Mengzhou test missions to Tiangong beyond Mengzhou-1, possibly crewed ones, or maybe even a LEO test of the lunar variant)
-"We will also organize and complete important missions as planned, including the Long March-10 carrier rocket technology verification flight, the maiden flight of the Mengzhou manned spacecraft and the lunar lander, and other important tasks. We will strive with all our might to achieve the goal of China's first lunar landing before 2030 as scheduled."
-No particular mention on whether Mengzhou-1 is still planned for this year or not (a recent article by CASC from late april beat around the bush by specifically mentioning Tianzhou 10, Shenzhou 23 & 24 as missions planned this year but only saying that there would be more Mengzhou test and development, without mentioning Mengzhou-1 by name)

 

[Tomboy]

-"We will also organize and complete important missions as planned, including the Long March-10 carrier rocket technology verification flight, the maiden flight of the Mengzhou manned spacecraft and the lunar lander, and other important tasks. We will strive with all our might to achieve the goal of China's first lunar landing before 2030 as scheduled."
-No particular mention on whether Mengzhou-1 is still planned for this year or not (a recent article by CASC from late april beat around the bush by specifically mentionnign Tianzhou 10, Shenzhou 23 & 24 as missions planned this year but only saying that there would be more Mengzhou test and development, without mentionning Mengzhou-1 by name)

Doesn't the first basically confirms the second? You can't call it "complete important missions" as "planned" if it's delayed. They even specifically mentioned Mengzhou verification.

 

[TheRathalos]

Doesn't the first basically confirms the second? You can't call it "complete important missions" as "planned" if it's delayed. They even specifically mentioned Mengzhou verification.

Mengzhou-1 was already announced as November-December last October; since then the Shenzhou-20 issues impacted Tiangong mission scheduling and the Mengzhou IFA was delayed from ~Dec 2025 to February 2026, it would not comes as a surprise to anyone if it gets delayed to early 2027.
A launch in early 2027 followed by crewed demo later in 2027 or early 2028 would still fit the schedule announced in 2022-2023

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On a personal basis, I assume that Mengzhou-1 will be "before the chinese new year 2027" and CZ-10 Y1 "before the chinese new year 2028"....

 

[Asug]

At the press conference, they said this would be the 40th launch in China's manned space program. 23 SZ, 10 TZ, Tiangong-1, Tiangong-2, and three more modules. A total of 38, what else was counted?

 

[TheRathalos]

At the press conference, they said this would be the 40th launch in China's manned space program. 23 SZ, 10 TZ, Tiangong-1, Tiangong-2, and three more modules. A total of 38, what else was counted?

2 of the 3 mengzhou demo launches (CZ-7 Y1 2016, CZ-5B Y1 2020, CZ-10A-demo 2026, pick 2 of them)

 

[taxiya]

At the press conference, they said this would be the 40th launch in China's manned space program. 23 SZ, 10 TZ, Tiangong-1, Tiangong-2, and three more modules. A total of 38, what else was counted?

CZ-7Y1 2016, 多用途飞船缩比返回舱, scaled demo of Mengzhou.
CZ-5B Y1 2020, Full-sized Mengzhou prototype.

Both entered orbit, so they are counted (like SZ-1 to 4) as two launches in the manned space program.

 

[kriss]

Good on Zhang Zhiyuan then! Only 9 people have stayed in orbit for more than a year at once, and also gets to meet the first HK astronaut and Pakistan astronaut on same tirip!

Since this is essentially a test for deep space exploration, I assume we will shortly have a 365-day mission for the female arm of the trial as well.

Now come to think about it. Is this endurance test corelated to the Pakistan astronaut joining? One crew member staying for two "tours" would mean now there's an round trip empty seat. Then they decide not to waste it by taking a foreign astronaut for a one week experience on the station.