What i mean is you place KC135 in gulf state airspace. Hence maybe the reported KC135 losses.Not if they want to get destroyed by Iranian drones and missiles. Iran is probably itching for such opportunities.
What i mean is you place KC135 in gulf state airspace. Hence maybe the reported KC135 losses.Not if they want to get destroyed by Iranian drones and missiles. Iran is probably itching for such opportunities.

But Saar, Imperial Air Force is supposed to have so much experience - in this case refueling experience - after destroying defenseless countries over the past 30+ years in the MENA region, so how can they collide, especially since Iraqis on the ground "love" those KC - 135.I think it's pretty likely that they were doing daisy chain refueling and collided, if it was 2 KC135s.
The elephant in the room is still the nuclear issue. US can tolerate Iran as they did for the last 50 years but I don't think nukes would be tolerated. Israel could even first strike Iran without US if push come to shove.View attachment 171487
I don't know about the demand to withdraw all US bases from GCC, but I'm guessing unless US can pull a win somehow eventually a deal similar to this and getting rid of sanctions would be Iran's condition for ceasefire, it's kind of the thing they've bee negotiating for all these years.
This is so much more interesting than it looks, because it's not the nose that sustained damage.


If israel or the U.S. strike Iran with nuclear weapons, Ukraine gets nuked before it even has a chance to blink. One way or another, the U.S. loses.The elephant in the room is still the nuclear issue. US can tolerate Iran as they did for the last 50 years but I don't think nukes would be tolerated. Israel could even first strike Iran without US if push come to shove.
The 'aura of invincibility' or 'psychological dominance' is part of deterrence. That's why US and Israel spend so much effort covering up their own losses. And rubbishing Chinese and Russian kit too.
There were numerous statements from EU leaders a few days ago about NOT doing this and welp, get wrecked.
Right now its mid-air collision sigh
Nothing wrong can happen to nato/west troops/equipment etc
Personnel drowning accidentally in the Red Sea.
personnel getting sucked into quicksand.
personnel vanishing without a trace on a hike in the desert.
personnel having heart attacks while deployed to an unknown theater.
personnel dying in a car crash in Poland.
Gulf but not Saudis etc, maybe the closer ones in bahrain qatar kuwait etc.
Who is the first guy?"B-But Iran should have moved closer to Russia and the PRC!?"
Yeah, exchanging western ZOG bots for eastern ZOG bots definitely would make a huge difference.
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Ultimately Iran is all on it's own against Ivdea and it's vassals, namely the US and Gulf States.