2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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Serb

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In the entire human history of warfare, I don't think a single commander has been mentally distraught enough to unilaterally declare that the enemy issued unconditional surrender, right in the heat of the conflict... until now.

There are many other "first things" regarding Trump - coming basically every day.

He was the first president in history to sue his own country while in office (for $10B).
 

jiajia99

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You guys are talking as if China is not also following their national interests only. Every great power does the same . Haven’t you guys seen China condemn Irans attack on gulf/an Arab states at the UN? China has far more interests and stake in gulf states than in Iran. So China will still tilt more towards them than Iran(though they don’t have to make it too obvious ). In fact India, Russia etc etc all have more stakes in gulf Arab countries than in Iran. This again shows that Iran’s policies since the mullah seized power has been a failure to be honest. It’s why they are isolated apart from having militias groups in quasi semi failed states countries like Yemen/ Lebanon .

The gulf states by contrast have been very strategic in drawing in different powers economic/trade interests in their territory, reason they hold a lot of sway/influence globally . After this was Iran will emerge even more weaker than before and more isolated to be honest. I don’t Qatar who was one of the main conduit of by passing some sanctions in the black market towards Iran( the even fell out spectacularly with the Saudis and UAE due to their close ties with Iran) and maybe even Oman will be less tolerant of cooperating with Iran like before.
the biggest losers of this war will be Hezbollah first( Israel will focus more on them and their plight will be far worse and longer even after Iran war is over), Iran second (this will weaken the country economically and militarily and isolate them more ) , thirdly Gulf Arab states who have taken a hit on their reputation.
biggest winners is Israel firstly for all the obvious reasons , secondly Russia( the get to enjoy selling more of their oil at higher prices with some sanctions lifted (ironically benefitting from Irans isolation/sanctions), China also gets to benefit as more countries will double down on their long term vision of electrifying their economy which means China will sell even more renewables globally since thy et dominate this crucial field. Though short term, China is also worried about Irans action of closing the strait of Hormuz where a significant portion of Chinas oil also passes through . In fat the countries most affected by this action are Asian countries , not the US(who is the worlds largest oil producer ironically).
it’s ironic how things can have ripple effects globally
What kind of stupid talk is this, the greatest possible losers of this will be Israel, with its infrastructure so damaged that ordinary living will be near impossible and its national image tarnished beyond repair as well as the USA who basically lost much of its military gear plus multiple assets and bases (including the THAADs that was supposed to be used against China) for quite frankly nothing. Those assets will never be rebuilt so consider that is a permanent loss for the USA which I bet would be quite bad to say it mildly. Also with its military infrastructure weakened (I mean the burnt through almost all of its defence missiles), its statehood will be in constant danger from all of its enemies that see Israel as the cause of its misfortunes. The lose of US presence in the Middle East especially the gulf is so catastrophic that whatever loses Iran would suffer now would be mild in comparison to the literal loss in status and image the USA would suffer from being driven from the Middle East not by China or Russia but by Iran for crying out loud.

In contrast one of the biggest winners will be Iran for being able to stand against the west and survive the fight and inevitably Russia and China are going to fund its survival while the economic damages done to both Israel and the USA will be impossible to reverse. Russia and China being the biggest winners of all I do agree on, Gulf states are definitely losers after this because it’s been exposed that western defence suck and they basically suffered extreme damage as a result of this
 

Faisal Iqbal

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Don't they have a huge supply of bullshit at home?
Do you think that purpose of God's greatest gift is just for it to become manure?

No, the true usage for this precious resource is as a cure for cancer or protection against the upcoming nuclear holocaust and countless other benefits against the pestilence and disease (it was BJP prescribed cure against the Covid-19, that's why India was so successful against it), so its better to beg China for fertilizer.
 

tamsen_ikard

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What kind of stupid talk is this, the greatest possible losers of this will be Israel, with its infrastructure so damaged that ordinary living will be near impossible and its national image tarnished beyond repair as well as the USA who basically lost much of its military gear plus multiple assets and bases (including the THAADs that was supposed to be used against China) for quite frankly nothing. Those assets will never be rebuilt so consider that is a permanent loss for the USA which I bet would be quite bad to say it mildly. Also with its military infrastructure weakened (I mean the burnt through almost all of its defence missiles), its statehood will be in constant danger from all of its enemies that see Israel as the cause of its misfortunes. The lose of US presence in the Middle East especially the gulf is so catastrophic that whatever loses Iran would suffer now would be mild in comparison to the literal loss in status and image the USA would suffer from being driven from the Middle East not by China or Russia but by Iran for crying out loud.

In contrast one of the biggest winners will be Iran for being able to stand against the west and survive the fight and inevitably Russia and China are going to fund its survival while the economic damages done to both Israel and the USA will be impossible to reverse. Russia and China being the biggest winners of all I do agree on, Gulf states are definitely losers after this because it’s been exposed that western defence suck and they basically suffered extreme damage as a result of this
I think it really depends on how accurate Iranian missiles are. Some westerners say 12 day war did not do much damage to israel strategically since Iranian missiles were not accurate. They have censored all the damage photos so its very hard to know how much real damage Iran has caused.

If its just some civilian buildings then its very easy for Israel to recover.

If they can get some accurate hits on its military production, supply depot, air bases and so on, then it will be strategic blow.
 

Chevalier

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Perfect example of how the west hides losses. Everything is either an accident or non-combat related. Pretty soon we'll have 50,000 dead soldiers who all accidentally died from kitchen accidents.
It’s clear the U.S. and western democracies have an Achilles heel and that is high casualties. They would not be able to sustain Ukraine level or battle of the Somme type casualties and remain in power.
If China or Russia really wanted to stick it to the Americans, enable Iranians to taken down and sink a U.S. carrier and show livestream drone footage of struggling, dying and dead servicemen.
 

jiajia99

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I think it really depends on how accurate Iranian missiles are. Some westerners say 12 day war did not do much damage to israel strategically since Iranian missiles were not accurate. They have censored all the damage photos so its very hard to know how much real damage Iran has caused.

If its just some civilian buildings then its very easy for Israel to recover.

If they can get some accurate hits on its military production, supply depot, air bases and so on, then it will be strategic blow.
They have done damages to the desalination plant and its oil refineries and most of its military protect along with their bunkers, most of which is being hidden to avoid the truth coming out which its time permits will be ever greater in the next few weeks. If the water and oil refineries are truly damage, we will truly know soon but the increased calls for a ceasefire. Not to mention trump going crazy does hint that real damage is being done. The longer this fight goes, expect calls for a ceasefire to grow and backlash against the true losing party to climb, if trumps constant bitching and whining on truth social is any indicator. Also no matter what is said and done, the loss of those THAAD batteries and its radars that was reported in the news that it would take decades to replace has to be an extreme strategic loss in on itself especially when they are relying on those deter China and Russia. That had to be something that ordinary Presidents would lose their presidency over but since the US system has been so compromised, Trump is still around to make things worse


This stupid idiot still thinks the messiah is going to let him into heaven through all the innocent lives killed, I want to see the look on his face when he is eventually proven wrong
 
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