2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

[Michael90]

"They" tried to do it to the unmentionable country, but someone put a stop to it. Hence why "They", Soros in particular has a hate boner against someone with the surname of Xi.

You guys are talking as if China is not also following their national interests only. Every great power does the same . Haven’t you guys seen China condemn Irans attack on gulf/an Arab states at the UN? China has far more interests and stake in gulf states than in Iran. So China will still tilt more towards them than Iran(though they don’t have to make it too obvious ). In fact India, Russia etc etc all have more stakes in gulf Arab countries than in Iran. This again shows that Iran’s policies since the mullah seized power has been a failure to be honest. It’s why they are isolated apart from having militias groups in quasi semi failed states countries like Yemen/ Lebanon .

The gulf states by contrast have been very strategic in drawing in different powers economic/trade interests in their territory, reason they hold a lot of sway/influence globally . After this was Iran will emerge even more weaker than before and more isolated to be honest. I don’t Qatar who was one of the main conduit of by passing some sanctions in the black market towards Iran( the even fell out spectacularly with the Saudis and UAE due to their close ties with Iran) and maybe even Oman will be less tolerant of cooperating with Iran like before.
the biggest losers of this war will be Hezbollah first( Israel will focus more on them and their plight will be far worse and longer even after Iran war is over), Iran second (this will weaken the country economically and militarily and isolate them more ) , thirdly Gulf Arab states who have taken a hit on their reputation.
biggest winners is Israel firstly for all the obvious reasons , secondly Russia( the get to enjoy selling more of their oil at higher prices with some sanctions lifted (ironically benefitting from Irans isolation/sanctions), China also gets to benefit as more countries will double down on their long term vision of electrifying their economy which means China will sell even more renewables globally since thy et dominate this crucial field. Though short term, China is also worried about Irans action of closing the strait of Hormuz where a significant portion of Chinas oil also passes through . In fat the countries most affected by this action are Asian countries , not the US(who is the worlds largest oil producer ironically).
it’s ironic how things can have ripple effects globally

 

[sheogorath]

This started off as a joke with commenters saying you might a well use people passing buckets but MAGA is so stupid that it became increasingly circulated as a serious solution.
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At least they got the location right, it could be much worse

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2032044194747805744

 

[taxiya]

Odd how the wings for C130 and Illyu both collapse immediately after being hit but not the p3

Because both Il-76 and C130 have top mounted wings while P3 has underside mounted wings. The video shows that the aims were the wing box mounts of Il-76 and C130, so the wings imediately loose the joints and collapsed. P3 was hit by the fuselage with a large space between the explosion and wing box, so the wing will only collapse after some time when if there is big fire to weaken the structure.

 

[manqiangrexue]

You guys are talking as if China is not also following their national interests only. Every great power does the same . Haven’t you guys seen China condemn Irans attack on gulf/an Arab states at the UN? China has far more interests and stake in gulf states than in Iran. So China will still tilt more towards them than Iran(though they don’t have to make it too obvious ). In fact India, Russia etc etc all have more stakes in gulf Arab countries than in Iran. This again shows that Iran’s policies since the mullah seized power has been a failure to be honest. It’s why they are isolated apart from having militias groups in quasi semi failed states countries like Yemen/ Lebanon .

The gulf states by contrast have been very strategic in drawing in different powers economic/trade interests in their territory, reason they hold a lot of sway/influence globally . After this was Iran will emerge even more weaker than before and more isolated to be honest. I don’t Qatar who was one of the main conduit of by passing some sanctions in the black market towards Iran( the even fell out spectacularly with the Saudis and UAE due to their close ties with Iran) and maybe even Oman will be less tolerant of cooperating with Iran like before.
the biggest losers of this war will be Hezbollah first( Israel will focus more on them and their plight will be far worse and longer even after Iran war is over), Iran second (this will weaken the country economically and militarily and isolate them more ) , thirdly Gulf Arab states who have taken a hit on their reputation.
biggest winners is Israel firstly for all the obvious reasons , secondly Russia( the get to enjoy selling more of their oil at higher prices with some sanctions lifted (ironically benefitting from Irans isolation/sanctions), China also gets to benefit as more countries will double down on their long term vision of electrifying their economy which means China will sell even more renewables globally since thy et dominate this crucial field. Though short term, China is also worried about Irans action of closing the strait of Hormuz where a significant portion of Chinas oil also passes through . In fat the countries most affected by this action are Asian countries , not the US(who is the worlds largest oil producer ironically).
it’s ironic how things can have ripple effects globally

No.

Winners:
Russia - Higher oil prices, reduced NATO ability to support Ukraine
PRC - USA bogged down in another conflict allowing more room to develop economically and militarily, reduced NATO ability to support ROC
Iran - Weak and inflitrated old leaders dead, will emerge free to build their own nuke; found out that only missiles do effective negotiating against USA/Israel. PRC support will increase, though somewhat more secretly due to weighing relations with the GCC
North Korea - "So... wouldn't it be funny if we picked now to resume the war? THAAD'd be hilarious!"

Losers:
Israel - Attempted to use the final moments of US domination to expand itself, ends up bombed to hell. Second time underestimating Iran in short succession. Economy destroyed, population flight. Turned into a wartorn state.
USA - Client confidence and reputation as dominant power suffers, all Gulf bases/assets on fire, ammo depleted, whole world sees Patriot interceptors working like garbage, needs to beg PRC for rare earths to replenish, can forget about stopping the dragon's challenge because PLA's moving onto its first generation of weapons designed to outclass American weapons and America will be too tired/broke/mired down to respond
EU and UK - No Russian oil, no middle eastern oil = ride your donkey to work if you haven't been laid off yet. WTF do you still do at work anyway? Nothing worth a shit happens in Europe anymore.
ROC and Ukraine - Nobody cares about you anymore.

In the air:
GCC, South Korea - Either win by realizing how stupid it is to rely on America or lose by continuing to rely on a much weakened America

 

[siegecrossbow]

No.

Winners:
Russia - Higher oil prices, reduced NATO ability to support Ukraine
PRC - USA bogged down in another conflict allowing more room to develop economically and militarily, reduced NATO ability to support ROC
Iran - Weak and inflitrated old leaders dead, will emerge free to build their own nuke; found out that only missiles do effective negotiating against USA/Israel. Chinese support will increase, though somewhat more secretly due to weighing relations with the GCC

Losers:
Israel - Attempted to use the final moments of US domination to expand itself, ends up bombed to hell. Second time underestimating Iran in short succession. Economy destroyed, population flight. Turned into a wartorn state.
USA - Client confidence and reputation as dominant power suffers, ammo depleted, needs to beg China for rare earths to replenish, can forget about stopping PRC's challenge because PRC's moving onto its first generation of weapons designed to outclass American weapons and America will be too tired/broke/mired down to respond
Europe - No Russian oil, no middle eastern oil = ride your donkey to work if you haven't been laid off yet. WTF do you still do at work anyway? Nothing worth a shit happens in Europe anymore.
ROC and Ukraine - Nobody cares about you anymore

In the air:
GCC, South Korea - Either win by realizing how stupid it is to rely on America or lose by continuing to rely on a much weakened America

Seems that no matter what happens Europe loses.

 

[valysre]

Rather amusing how this is a laundry fire. Yet, the Fifth Fleet had to tell us that the carrier propulsion system is not damaged from the fire. Is the laundry room that contains tons of flammable objects built next room to the ship propulsion systems?

It would be embarrassing if it really was a laundry fire. Either the wiring in the laundromat is exceptionally poorly done, or the maintenance is so bad that lint has built up so quickly that dryers now spontaneously combust. I doubt it's misuse of the machines, a load of coal dust wouldn't catch fire if the dryer was well maintained.

 

[sheogorath]

What are the chances the UAE lost their AWACS?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2032176658619515266

Seems that no matter what happens Europe loses.

It is what happens when you are trying to play the "we supapowa too, saar" games and don't pick a side and commit to it.

 

[another505]

Europe is really the EUnuch , they will be begging for NA oil/gas/lng Denmark just announced that their people should drive less. Europe flights got a lot more expensive

Is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

 

[Weaasel]

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He's delusional, take him to the infirmary.

I hope he actually believes this if it is true and he just withdraws all US participation in the fight.

 

[tokenanalyst]

No.

Winners:
Russia - Higher oil prices, reduced NATO ability to support Ukraine
PRC - USA bogged down in another conflict allowing more room to develop economically and militarily, reduced NATO ability to support ROC
Iran - Weak and inflitrated old leaders dead, will emerge free to build their own nuke; found out that only missiles do effective negotiating against USA/Israel. PRC support will increase, though somewhat more secretly due to weighing relations with the GCC
North Korea - "So... wouldn't it be funny if we picked now to resume the war? THAAD'd be hilarious!"

Losers:
Israel - Attempted to use the final moments of US domination to expand itself, ends up bombed to hell. Second time underestimating Iran in short succession. Economy destroyed, population flight. Turned into a wartorn state.
USA - Client confidence and reputation as dominant power suffers, ammo depleted, whole world sees Patriot interceptors working like garbage, needs to beg PRC for rare earths to replenish, can forget about stopping PRC's challenge because PRC's moving onto its first generation of weapons designed to outclass American weapons and America will be too tired/broke/mired down to respond
EU and UK - No Russian oil, no middle eastern oil = ride your donkey to work if you haven't been laid off yet. WTF do you still do at work anyway? Nothing worth a shit happens in Europe anymore.
ROC and Ukraine - Nobody cares about you anymore.

In the air:
GCC, South Korea - Either win by realizing how stupid it is to rely on America or lose by continuing to rely on a much weakened America

Israel obsession of 100% no potential enemies has probably backfire in a huge way. One of the things that US has done to the Gulf States, specially the Saudis is to make them militarily weak despite their huge budgets compared to Israel and that is by design,to make sure that any single Arab army don't ever represent a threat to Israel dominance. They should blame themselves why Saudi Arabia didn't intervene, well apart from the US ambassador to Israel saying the Israel is allowed to take their land.



The US sell them expensive high tech weapons to their armies without really show them how to effectively use this tools in warfare or how to maintain them, that is by design. Is like the Saudis buying a Lamborghini but they don't know the mechanics or the logistic, instead of having their own mechanic they send the car to Italy. The Iranians in the other hand are poorer and make their own weapons and that give them the advantage know the weapon weakness and strength and how to use this weapon properly, they know how to train and maintain those weapons.
The Issue for Israel is that now that the Saudis are probably like go the Iranian way and build a numerically large advanced array of offensive weapons on its own for deterrence and probably even nuclear weapons. An arsenal that will not be controlled by the US.

That is if Israel doesn't goes mad and nuke the entire Middle East.