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Daan_C18

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So lately there’s been some talk about a new heavy transport plane. This plane, some people said, will use the WS-35, a military grade version of the CJ-2000.

My question being, what has to change about the engine to change it from a civilian engine into a military engine? If a civilian engine has gone through all the testing and certification that a civilian engine needs to go through, what’s stopping Xi’an from just bolting it straight on the new plane?

Is it simply a matter of requirements?
 

Blitzo

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So lately there’s been some talk about a new heavy transport plane. This plane, some people said, will use the WS-35, a military grade version of the CJ-2000.

My question being, what has to change about the engine to change it from a civilian engine into a military engine? If a civilian engine has gone through all the testing and certification that a civilian engine needs to go through, what’s stopping Xi’an from just bolting it straight on the new plane?

Is it simply a matter of requirements?

It all depends on the requirements of the aircraft itself. In theory if the thrust class is suitable for the new transport to begin with, there's nothing stopping them using the identical engine for a transporter with minimal modifications.
See engines used on say, C-17, Kawasaki C-2, KC-390.
 

nimitz123

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What is the reason for there're no plans to build a similar AC-130 in China. I see that it's going to be useful in a Taiwan contigency, after achieving Air supremacy, there will be many insurgencies, which support the use of a AC 130. Besides that, China have the Y-9, and a artillery shell always cheaper than a drone/missile
Thank you
 

lcloo

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What is the reason for there're no plans to build a similar AC-130 in China. I see that it's going to be useful in a Taiwan contigency, after achieving Air supremacy, there will be many insurgencies, which support the use of a AC 130. Besides that, China have the Y-9, and a artillery shell always cheaper than a drone/missile
Thank you
AC-130 is outdated because of modern day low altitude air defense. Any aircraft staying within range of manpads missiles is suicide. Moreover, aircraft like C-130 or Y9 are huge, visible and slow target. Even sheep herders have manpads.

Also the kill ratio of 1 kill : xxx number of artillery shells may not be favorable to 1 kill : xx number of suicide drone. Unless you are using those expensive guided artillery shells.
 
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Aval

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Is there anywhere to read/discuss about PLA aviation culture? There's a lot of threads here on hardware, but what about training or even "cultural" aspects like callsigns, personalisations and kill marks?

The only thing I can recall is new aircraft types needing to fire rocket pods as some kind of initiation ritual.

I get that the PLA is a highly professional force, but all services have softer elements, and I'm interested at looking into it.
 

Squadson

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Apologize if this is a basic question. A few months ago, I asked @Deino whether the J-10C can carry air-to-air missiles on its fuselage, and he said no. However, I recently came across an article stating that the Taiwanese F-CK-1 can carry only two medium-range air-to-air missiles on its fuselage, but not on its underwing hardpoints—even though those hardpoints are designed to carry larger munitions such as the Wan Chien cruise missile.

This made me wonder: do aircraft generally have limitations that restrict certain types of munitions to specific hardpoints, even if those hardpoints are structurally capable of carrying heavier loads?

Additionally, if the J-10C cannot carry air-to-air missiles (even though it was shown at the zuhai air show) on its fuselage, is it possible for it to carry guided munitions—such as the LT-2 or LS-PGB series bombs—along with Targeting/ECM/Navigation pods rather than free fall and unguided bombs?
 

siegecrossbow

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Apologize if this is a basic question. A few months ago, I asked @Deino whether the J-10C can carry air-to-air missiles on its fuselage, and he said no. However, I recently came across an article stating that the Taiwanese F-CK-1 can carry only two medium-range air-to-air missiles on its fuselage, but not on its underwing hardpoints—even though those hardpoints are designed to carry larger munitions such as the Wan Chien cruise missile.

This made me wonder: do aircraft generally have limitations that restrict certain types of munitions to specific hardpoints, even if those hardpoints are structurally capable of carrying heavier loads?

Additionally, if the J-10C cannot carry air-to-air missiles (even though it was shown at the zuhai air show) on its fuselage, is it possible for it to carry guided munitions—such as the LT-2 or LS-PGB series bombs—along with Targeting/ECM/Navigation pods rather than free fall and unguided bombs?
J-10C can mount guided munitions on the fuselage but it requires taking the airframe apart and plumbing the hard points, which is fairly difficult. Since China uses it as a medium fighter aircraft there is never any need to do this.

Pretty sure that laser guided bombs can be mounted on the fuselage.
 
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