Putin is daydreaming about restoring the USSR and lives in 1980s world.
It's a great goal, to atrophy the EU while China mogs the US in innovation without its right hand force. What's wrong with the 1980's? China works to restore the ancient world order when our dynastic power surpassed all. History repeats itself.
You guys seem to have a weird idea of „success“.
Yeah, all of us are weird and you're normal, ok, Mr. Everyone-else-is-driving-the-wrong-way-on-this-road LOL
If going from a space faring superpower
Russia is still space-faring and if it was a superpower, then it still is, but it was never comprehensively powerful due to economic weaknesses.
to China‘s gas supplier is success
It's very lucritive to be China's main gas supplier AND much smarter than any Western nation to be an economic ally rather than enemy of the world's strongest manufacturing nation. Trump wants to sell gas to China; China buys Russian instead.
then I don‘t know what failure ist.
Oooh I know! Your English is failure.
Europe and the Middle East were indeed becoming irrelevant for Americans from Obama administration. US started calling itself a pacific power and asked Europeans to carry their share of defending themselves because it‘s too expensive for the US to spend money into a part of the world that they don‘t consider as critical. Even after annexing Crimea, Germany was still buying gas from Russia and Russia didn‘t have to dangerously depend on China because they had options.
Au contraire! China is an extremely dependable ally; probably the most dependable in the world. Europe and the US are all snakes, so it was very beneficial for Russia to go from relying on many snakes to relying on a China that will never betray Russia as long as Russia does not betray us.
In the end of the day, it‘s lose-lose for both the EU and Russia.
Speak for the EU. Russia has gone to a much better partner. Did you see the economic chart? Russia's economic ranking climbed to new heights this year.
Of course a Chinese would like what‘s happening because Russia has essentially become China‘s bitch but Russians themselves would habe other opinions. It is clear as day that this war has been a failure and the only thing that keeps this war going is Putin‘s ego and reputation.
Already addressed. Russia has finally found a reliable partner and China treats Russia with immense respect. What keeps this war going is Russian's rising power, economically and industrially. It is truly a bear of a nation that needs to wake from hibernation once in a while. It warms up and gets stronger, while the EU wears down like an old tire.
Ukraine joining NATO wouldn‘t have done a goddamm thing as Estonia, Poland, Lithuania and now Finnland and Sweden joined.
Then neither would Finland or Sweden, would it? Russia doesn't like slavic countries getting out of order and they're right about that.
If Russia didn‘t cause trouble,
It's the US causing trouble; Russia almost joined NATO, which would have been quite bad for China.
the US would have eventually scaled down its European assetd and would habe moved to the pacific where the real game is.
And then from Russia's perspective, what would then happen? If the EU and US focused and defeated China, who's next on the list? What big nuclear country would the West want to bow so it can boast unchallenged supremacy everywhere on earth?
Putin's much smarter than you; he'd rather stop the EU, let China wreck the US, and live in that new world order.
This is assuming that a corrupt country like Ukraine would have even been accepted into NATO and the EU. They had a bad reputation before this war started.
Their reputation is what the West wants it to be and they want it to be NATO material after regime change.
Russia caused the very thing that they feared to happen.
Caused what? Did you just imagine that Ukraine joined NATO?
Space faring superpower that recently lost its only launchpad for manned missions. Its lunar missions also ended in failure.... Compare that to the USSR. These are some of the achievements of the USSR:
First man in space
First woman in space
First satellite
First space station
First lunar lander
First venus lander
One of the biggest drains on the power of the USSR was expensive vanity projects that didn't actually benefit their power and you just named a whole bunch.
Now can you really say with a straight face that today's Russia is in any way comparable to the USSR?
Its core power is still there but it's not as aggressive. Hey, they lost the Cold War; it's not free to lose.
Putin had decades of high oil prices to build a solid economy, instead he built a corrupt kakistocracy.
Russian corruption is being cleaned up by war. America is falling into a kakistocracy in real time.
In theory Russia has everything to be one of the wealthiest and most advanced countries in the world.
It actually is. You're just spoiled looking at China vs USA.
It's not about depending on power when you can be friendly with BOTH powers and enjoy benefits, at least when you are at a weakeer position. Both depending on China and the West is dangerous. Russia and Japan are 2 countries that are at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Russia's not some junior running around trying to stay alive in a herd of giants. It is one of the G3 and has interests in shaping the world.
Ukraine joining NATO and the EU used to be a big if.
And now it's a big No.
If this stupid war never started, it was seen as yet another corrupt eastern European country and the western Europeans were wary of expanding NATO or EU eastwards, especially because of Hungary.
NATO has already expanded past the promises that it would not expand.
And even if they did, so what?
So we don't like it so let's fight about it LOL
Russia is a nuclear power that won't see any direct threats towards its mainland.
Turns out Russia's not as generous as you are giving up Russian interests. Neither is the US in its backyard and neither was China in the Korean and Vietnam wars. "So what," to an enemy changing your area around you to become hostile is what someone says when the mental chess has become too much for him.
There was never any talk about hosting nuclear missiles in Ukraine lmfao. Provide a valid source before making grand claims. In fact their own nuclear weapons were taken away from them in exchange of protection in which they were totally screwed.
It's not just the nuclear threat. Ukraine used to be a staunch Russian ally and now it's corrupted. Russia will reverse that by force.
US actually stores nuclear weapons in Japan, did China start a retarded war and sacrifice its economy and hundreds of thousands of people over it?
China has many other ways of beating the US; it is a true comprehensive superpower that can bring down the Western world. Russia is more military power than any other kind so fighting is Russia's best bet.
Also you guys talk big over a screen while living in a heated room with all of its luxuries. Are you willing to get drafted and die/get maimed over a war started by a dictator living in all kinds of luxuries? If not then I would stop being keyboard warriors constantly begging for war.
You mean, are we real men who would go to war if our countries were threatened? LMFAO It's not as rare as you think for that to happen. Case in point: WARS!!
