QBZ-191 service rifle family

[Rina]

Ok, coming from someone who larps and collect milgear, obtaining PLA stuff is kinda average, if you know who to talk to and have the means to get it out of China its very easy because low level corruptions like that just exists. Just like you can with US and Russian stuff (although US and Russia are kinda messy, ITAR with the US and Russia with Ukraine, there was a brief moment in time where the war got so desperate they were confiscating anything camo-related. That's how stupid it got)

Coming from personal experience, I was offered the Digital NODs and the new NVD sight from people in the PLA. Army666 on ebay famously was a former logistics officer and still had contact and were selling a lot of random junks from the PLA.

You seems have a misconception: because China is a socialist country, there is no commercial bidding, and all equipment is mass-produced by state-owned factories.So you will think that you can buy military uniforms, equipment, scopes and other items must be secretly taken by soldiers.

However, most of the factories that produce these things are private factories, and they would have sent the surplus materials to the market.On the second-hand trading platform, there are manufacturers disguised as individual sellers sell military leftovers, and you can even buy APFSDS cartridges.

Your friend has more trading channels because he knows more factory managers.

In addition, according to different local policies, conscripts can receive hundreds of thousands of retirement pensions after two years of retirement. If you have money in two years, there is no need to steal anything.

 

[James Zhen]

You seems have a misconception: because China is a socialist country, there is no commercial bidding, and all equipment is mass-produced by state-owned factories.So you will think that you can buy military uniforms, equipment, scopes and other items must be secretly taken by soldiers.

However, most of the factories that produce these things are private factories, and they would have sent the surplus materials to the market.On the second-hand trading platform, there are manufacturers disguised as individual sellers sell military leftovers, and you can even buy APFSDS cartridges.

Your friend has more trading channels because he knows more factory managers.

In addition, according to different local policies, conscripts can receive hundreds of thousands of retirement pensions after two years of retirement. If you have money in two years, there is no need to steal anything.

Yeah, that too. Most of time it's from the factory or people who have contacts with the factory.

 

[siegecrossbow]

No? Suppressors hardly add that much wear and cost to a kit but it's astronomically better when it comes to reducing a soldier's signature, every modern military with decent funding should be handing out as many Suppressors as possible, especially since the VQX191 is already a flow through design, I don't get how is it even possible to frame handing out suppressors as anything but a straight improvement. It's really fucking bizarre how the Ukraine conflict demonstrated this for years and somehow people still need this explained to them.

Does it make your gun completely quiet like they do in movies? No, because that would violate conservation of energy.

Does it make it quiet enough so your enemy can’t discern your general location? Definitely.

 

[no_name]

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Mass induction of silencers.

This seems like a pretty situation specific pic, like CQB type operations in buildings judging by the trucks behind them.

 

[Aniah]

This seems like a pretty situation specific pic, like CQB type operations in buildings judging by the trucks behind them.

Yeah, I think it's too early to tell if this really is mass induction rather than specific units. Time will tell.

 

[Clango]

Does it make your gun completely quiet like they do in movies? No, because that would violate conservation of energy.

Does it make it quiet enough so your enemy can’t discern your general location? Definitely.

Funny enough I'd like to bet that it's more likely for the PLAGF to issue suppressor as standard than optics, especially given that China now has more than enough expertise in 3D metal printing that they can literally just print cans by the thousands, whereas good optics can actually still cost more

 

[no_name]

They might even start putting suppressors on robot dogs.

 

[The Observer]

No? Suppressors hardly add that much wear and cost to a kit but it's astronomically better when it comes to reducing a soldier's signature, every modern military with decent funding should be handing out as many Suppressors as possible, especially since the VQX191 is already a flow through design, I don't get how is it even possible to frame handing out suppressors as anything but a straight improvement. It's really fucking bizarre how the Ukraine conflict demonstrated this for years and somehow people still need this explained to them.

Is VQX191 really a flow through suppressor design though? I thought it's just old school baffle design?

These pics are supposedly VQX191 suppressors. The muzzle cap seems flow though, but closer inspection shows the indentations are solid covers, not flow through holes.

 

[Clango]

Is VQX191 really a flow through suppressor design though? I thought it's just old school baffle design?

These pics are supposedly VQX191 suppressors. The muzzle cap seems flow though, but closer inspection shows the indentations are solid covers, not flow through holes.

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That's fair, I just assumed it's a flow through becauee the end cap seemed like it.

 

[PeoplesPoster]

Does it make your gun completely quiet like they do in movies? No, because that would violate conservation of energy.

Does it make it quiet enough so your enemy can’t discern your general location? Definitely.

also its not so much about the sound as the muzzle flash, its a big lighted sign pointing to your position.