lol. We know you are the greatest defender of both North Korean and Iranian military capabilities online and always do so with insults. Your claim of me being illiterate just exposes the level of contribution and intelligence you offer.
Me being supposed greatest defender of both North Korea and Iran is not an argument to be used against me and of course people like you are offended at supposed insults when described for what you are in consideration of what you have wrote and statements you have made in here, yet apparently my criticism of you apparently exposes me and not you asserting on topic you know next to nothing.
Provide some education on Iranian missile capabilities for us then.
You mean for me to provide education for you and people like you that liked your reply to me that exposes yourself and them for being uninformed and uneducated on subject of Iran and their capabilities, because you like them are oblivious of own willful ignorance when resorting to doubling down instead of doing some self reflection and have moment of actual self awareness for a change in your life.
My statement was that the very best of Iranian missile capability is in MaRV. In the hierarchy of missile tech tree, MaRV is a step above your usual ballistic missile but far below HGV and HCM. This company literally test flew a HGV that is powered with an engine. The engine is likely rotating detonation engine type since this company test flew an RDE in the past.
Your statement is not relevant to any degree when you do not know Iran has hypersonic glide vehicles as evident when you asserted that one private Chinese company is at least 2 leagues above them, which is nonsense only someone uninformed and uneducated would make while lacking basic literacy to not make assertions on topic while knowing next to nothing about it, like people like you are.
Iran has used Fattah-1 HGV and they used it against Israel along have in development Fattah-2, both have engine in HGV.
Now for Iran. The nation that brought us the Qaher 313 and presented it as 5th gen and then doubled down on presenting it on a toy "aircraft carrier".
Of course uneducated people such as you have to mention Qaher-313 as if it is some argument and not self exposure of being illiterate and since according to you IRIS Shahid Bagheri is toy "aircraft carrier" then will you go on to assert same for Chinese Type 076? Go on.
I am giving them credit by saying that Iranian MaRV tech is not at the same level as Chinese, Russian or American MaRV tech. Iran has a total of zero space based feed nodes. These MaRVs are preprogrammed turn capable to shake off the cheaper and more plentiful types of interceptors. Iran also has a total of zero HALE drones that can serve as a targeting, guidance or comms node. Iran has no telecommunication technology industry, not even a telecommunication academic institution. Even landline tech is not something Iran has mastered yet.
Except Iran does have high altitude long endurance unmanned aerial vehicles and your focus on maneuverable reentry vehicles to say Iranian technology is not on same level when they can do it, yet they do not because they want to have greater quantity since after all quantity has quality of its own in the end to a degree depending on whenever good balance between two is made that is worth it.
By simply pointing out what you do not know is enough to highlight how you know next to nothing on Iranian military capabilities just as those that liked your reply to me, people like you end up misinforming people about what Iran can do and what it has in arsenal thus in process in regards to that become detached from reality to point of delusions, which will cause disbelief and detachment from reality.
I've been kind to Iran. Iranians are very much capable of all of this and indeed have contributed to other nations. Just not the nation of Iran.
They are capable of this and have achieved some of it yet people like you are utterly ignorant and arrogant to even bother to do some basic research before discussing military and industrial capabilities of Iranian military industrial complex hence statements you made.
Chinese assistance is guaranteed! You pointed it out yourself here without fully realising. Guess what? Allowing those North Korean academics and engineers to study and use Chinese sourced academic material, equipment, labs and whatever facility is granted constitutes assistance and not just basic assistance. This is one step below holding their hand every step along the way of hypersonic weapon development and manufacturing.
I am not surprised for you to write any of this considering expectations you have set about yourself with your arrogance and ignorance,
What I have pointed out is not what you think I have pointed out which you believe I have not realized when that is not my point.
Statement I have made should have been obvious to you given context of discussion yet apparently you did not comprehend it.
What you said as an argument is applicable to Chinese themselves as they sent those too to North Korea if you did not know.
Also those only resumed this year as there was none during COVID-19 pandemic when exchanges were suspended by DPRK.
This doesn't take anything away from what North Korea and for that matter, Iran have accomplished with or without assistance. I don't care to denigrade others for that. Everyone has stuff to learn from others. Previously I was merely stating that Lingkong Tianxing shouldn't be written off by others since they're at least flying stuff that major missile powers like Iran and North Korea have not done.
If you do not care to denigrate then you would have not done so yet here we are seeing you doing so and some supporting such acts.
If you were merely stating what Lingkkong Tianxing should not be written off then you would not resort to denigrating Iran and for that matter North Korea in order to elevate it, such denigration only possible from position of utter ignorance and detachment from reality.
Both Iran and North Korea do receive assistance in a sense they assist each other because they have joint research and development.
This stuff is true and completely irrelevant to the conversation.
As is your mention of both Iran and North Korea to denigrate them in order to elevate a Chinese company unlike when I simply have pointed out comments by some Chinese netizens at how HGV vehicle is similar to North Korean HGV that was unveiled prior to them.
Are you suggesting North Korea's HGVs are completely self developed?
I gave you no context nor reason for you to ask this yet it makes sense for me for you make such question in consideration of your unawareness of being uninformed on North Korea and Iran since you do not know about their cooperation on missile technologies.
Be clear with what youre stating because only that statement has bearing on the conversation and this would be a suggestion that North Korea is surpassed the US in HGV despite possessing a grand total of zero hypersonic wind tunnels and supercomputers for advanced CFD, the two main tools that you'd need to develop working HGVs.
None of us in here knows whenever North Korea has in possession hypersonic wind tunnels and or supercomputers.
Former is not cutting edge technology as first hypersonic wind tunnels were in the US in late 1950's for testing hypersonic phenomena and reentry vehicles, as for supercomputers, I would not assume they have not in consideration scalability of present day computing.
What moving goal posts? I stated a fact. North Korea does not possess a HCM that is also a glider (or any HCM for that matter) and North Korea does not possess a glider that is engine powered. It is a tautology.
I never ever anywhere implied nor asserted that North Korea has hypersonic cruise missile or powered glider, what you stated is a fact yet such is a deflection which apparently you can not understand why since you are uninformed or are just being blatantly disingenuous.
Because of fact discussion was about unpowered HGV and not HCM or powered HGV hence moving of goal post when you came here to tout unpowered HGV of private Chinese company then made bold statement of them being 2 leagues or more better than Iran and North Korea only for you to mention HCM/powered HGV that is different from unpowered HGV yet you made such comparison.
I'm pointing out that a second/third rate Chinese startup company has managed to at least pull off something that North Korea and Iran, two very decent missile players have not managed to do - develop an engine powered glider aka gliding HCM.
You would have a point if that was true yet it is not as Iran has powered hypersonic glide vehicles.
As for North Korea, your statements imply and assert they have tried when there is no statement nor indication nor data to support it.
Because if they have tried and were unsuccessful such would have been certainly reported by South Korea, Japan and or the USA.
You are basically saying 2nd or 3rd tier private Chinese company did it thus better than North Korea, when latter did not even try.
