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I don't think it was stated that it's going to just be a one year pause though, and I'd rather see rare earth deals being limited to a per country basis with EU members rather than the whole EU, France and Germany deserve to be devastated for this, and the Netherlands should just be completely banned from Chinese exports.
Maybe there's something more to this that I'm not seeing, but I don't see how this deal benefits China at all, it's insane concessions for the sheer amount of bullshit fuckery that Trump AND Biden have been pulling since 2016. Anything short of forcing removal of US Military presence from its foreign bases is already too little.
So just a few observations:
1. In the face to face meeting with Xi + all relevant Chinese ministers on one side of the table, and Trump + all relevant US secretaries on the other, the Chinese side looks happy like they won. The US side looks tense and weary.
2. After the meetings were over and APEC started, Xi looked very happy while relaxing with visiting leaders from other nations, like he just came out of a huge win.
3. Trump left before APEC started. If he came out of it with a win, he would stay for APEC and brag about it to the other visiting nations. Instead, his administration immediately began focusing on domestic US media and spinning it as an exaggerated total victory.
4. After the the meetings were over, Pete Hegseth adopted a publicly dovish (fake) stance about China via X post. As a hard rule, Americans in high office do not do this when they feel they are in a position of any relative strength whatsoever. It's just not in their political culture to hide strength.
In order to believe this was even a small victory for the US, you'd have to believe the following:
1. That American leaders look stressed and tense when they are in a winning position.
2. That Xi and his top ministers look very sincerely happy when they have lost.
3. That Trump has zero interest in showing off and bragging about a victory to other world leaders at an event full of world leaders.
4. That the US is hiding their strength in complete contradiction to their usual patterns of political behavior.
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What insane concessions? Everything was done in a reciprocal action. Unlike Trumps first term where China gave more concessions than in return. I don’t know why some people acting like the US not turning into a Chinese province is nothing short of total humiliation.
what is the current status of the "Tiktok deal"?
There isn't one yet but TikTok US already pivoted to storing US data in the US and relying on Zionist "ex"-national security officials in censorship policy positions a long time ago.
I don’t believe final status of TikTok will be reached until an actual trade agreement happens. But the Americans have zero intentions of a permanent agreement.
Why? this doesn't make sense to me because imo this only benefits us from my pov as it continues to let us have full ownership of Tiktok US, which is exactly what I wanted too.