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siegecrossbow

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India is indeed keeping a low profile if you ignore all the bullshit instagram reels and Facebook comments and what not. They are also learning a great deal from China in this regard. In the same manner if I were to read some comments here, I would get the impression that China is a hot tempered irrational country but the comments here are not a represenative of actual Chinese policy.

I suggest you to pay attention to actual politics instead of what the average joe in every country has say on the internet.
It’s not Facebook comments and instagram reel, it’s their government and higher ups echoing the same bullshit as their media. Remember classics like Supapowa by 2020? That wasn’t just something the average Joe came up with. This is not even accounting for them actively assassinating separatists in Canada and the U.S.
 

AssassinsMace

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India is indeed keeping a low profile if you ignore all the bullshit instagram reels and Facebook comments and what not. They are also learning a great deal from China in this regard. In the same manner if I were to read some comments here, I would get the impression that China is a hot tempered irrational country but the comments here are not a represenative of actual Chinese policy.

I suggest you to pay attention to actual politics instead of what the average joe in every country has say on the internet.
In a democracy, the people are suppose to be the ultimate leaders. So who's more responsible for the direction their country goes? As Americans said of all the civilians that died during the Iraq War... If they didn't want to suffer, they should've revolted before the US had to do change the government. That logic is more applicable in a democracy.
 

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I honestly don't understand why there are still scholars in China that likes to worship the west saying western culture is great for China when it's not (The city today has no french influence). The scholar said that the french built a hospital in 1922 but conviently forgets that this was the bare minimum from french and not a charitable action. It dosen't take a genius to conclude that the Western World are the biggest grifters on the planet because they never practice what they preach (ehem free trade my ass and demand assimilation when you force your values on others in their country). The west literally ruined Chinese society by flooding drugs into it and they tried to replace the culture with western one by brainwashing the "scholars" at the time. I honestly wished Xi Jinping would have more power than he does now so that his cultural confidence could actually be a reality.
 

Randomuser

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Just my personal experience. I am neither Indian nor Chinese. Anyone here from a third party can also chime in and offer a different perspective.
I dunno. You have been making a lot of troll comments lately. As a 2025 account it always is possible you're just one of those banned accounts making a new one.

There was some guy claiming to be from Tibet after all which got exposed as another banned account here. Let's not forget all those Twitter Greek statue right wing (decline of the west) accounts which turned out to be Indians engagement farming.
 
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AssassinsMace

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I honestly don‘t have a high opinion of democracy as I have said multiple times on this forum. Ordinary people who are not qualified have no business deciding complex policy decisions of a country. Whether it‘s done overtly as in China or covertly while providing the illusion of a choice, I don‘t care, as long as the country is taking sensible decidions.
Well you were commenting on the measuring citizens' opinions of other countries focusing on the Chinese peoples' as if it was worse than what they say in the West of other countries in private. By that logic Western citizens are more liable since they vote for their leaders while in China their opinions have no impact on their leaders actions since they don't vote for their leaders. So who's worse are the ones that get to vote for their leaders.
 

uguduwa

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Well you were commenting on the measuring citizens' opinions of other countries focusing on the Chinese peoples' as if it was worse than what they say in the West of other countries in private. By that logic Western citizens are more liable since they vote for their leaders while in China their opinions have no impact on their leaders actions since they don't vote for their leaders. So who's worse are the ones that get to vote for their leaders.
My point was that you can‘t gauge out the scope of policies of a country based on internet comments. We take the tariff debacle between India and the US as an example. If you were to guess from online comments how India would respond to the US, you would think that India would immediately challenge the US the next day but in reality Indian response was silently negotiating a deal while not making any noise. If you read the comments on Trump thread here, many were predicting that India would react loudly and irrationally because people here are trying to guess politics of a country based on online comments but this did not happen in reality.
 

hifisnow

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the irony is not lost upon me that all these other global south comments saying like "im so glad chinas going to take the lead, they'll never bully us like the united states" have simply never heard the chinese talking candidly amongst themselves.
That’s why CPC exists, really. On a individual level some Americans can be pretty nice but what are their collective actions as a nation? CPC is called vanguard for a reason.
 

ismellcopium

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Damn. If Trump is 川建国 what would President Newsom be?
牛送国

I think this officially has to be revised at this point, replacing 牛 with 川.

I'm almost hoping this withdrawal from Asia doesn't happen at this point, or at least not too quickly/drastically. What would all this work have been for then? It'd be like gearing up for a hunt and going out only to find no game anywhere.
 

4Tran

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There are nationalists everywhere. The difference is that in China, the CPC reins them in. Whereas in the West those nationalists are effectively encouraged by their government to pillage and plunder.
I've been saying for decades that the worst thing that could happen is for China to become a democracy and for the Chinese chauvinists to gain a measure of power. That China might actually do some of the things that the West is constantly fearmongering about.

India is indeed keeping a low profile if you ignore all the bullshit instagram reels and Facebook comments and what not. They are also learning a great deal from China in this regard. In the same manner if I were to read some comments here, I would get the impression that China is a hot tempered irrational country but the comments here are not a represenative of actual Chinese policy.

I suggest you to pay attention to actual politics instead of what the average joe in every country has say on the internet.
Wait, which India are you talking about? Is it the India that declared a ten day celebration after they lost a war? And which then sent delegations to countries all over the world to praise themselves? Or is it the India which somehow managed to alienate every country in South Asia? Including Bhutan - how the hell do you even manage to alienate Bhutan? Or is it the India that somehow managed to be the sole dissenting voice for joint declarations from BRICS and SCO? Or is it some other India out there that's trying to keep a low profile? It's sort of hard to keep track of all these Indias, please help me out.

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I honestly don't understand why there are still scholars in China that likes to worship the west saying western culture is great for China when it's not (The city today has no french influence). The scholar said that the french built a hospital in 1922 but conviently forgets that this was the bare minimum from french and not a charitable action. It dosen't take a genius to conclude that the Western World are the biggest grifters on the planet because they never practice what they preach (ehem free trade my ass and demand assimilation when you force your values on others in their country). The west literally ruined Chinese society by flooding drugs into it and they tried to replace the culture with western one by brainwashing the "scholars" at the time. I honestly wished Xi Jinping would have more power than he does now so that his cultural confidence could actually be a reality.
I suspect that a lot of these people had their formative years in the '80s and '90s when the West was doing infinitely better than China. It'd be easy to think back then that the West had to be doing something right and China doing something wrong to be where they were. It's the same thing as the end of the Qing dynasty where all the reformers saw the West as the thing to emulate. Sure it doesn't take into account China's progress since then, but opinions solidify is most certainly a thing, and the China's rise has simply been too fast for a lot of people to keep up with.
 
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