Chinese Economics Thread

[manqiangrexue]

Because trickles can turn into a deluge. We all saw what happened in the West: from a few guest workers to millions within a generation.

The mistakes of Western countries do not apply to China. Just because some imcompetent people turned into drug addicts does not mean that prescription drugs should be off limits to everyone.

Once an interest group is entrenched, it is hard to root out.

LMFAO China is perfectly suited to defend against this and the K-visa was made with provisions to expressly forbid its holders from becoming residents or entrenched in China.

Your fear is crippling you. Your solution is to never accept foreign skilled labor into China ever for any duration?

Under the one-child policy, forced abortions and foreign adoptions became an industry,

Once again, it's an industry due to the people breaking laws, not from the CCP attempting to prevent and reduce this aberrent behavior.

with officials often corrupted, fighting to keep it going to the detriment of China’s demography.

Blame the specific officials; don't make shit up like China was trying to cull its women and replace them with foreigners.

It’s ironic how the CCP just celebrated kicking out the Japs 80 years ago, only to immediately surrender to the Indians without a fight.

You're the one who mentally surrendered to Indians even thinking that the K-visa has anything to do with them. When I hear K-visa, I think overseas Chinese, some second generation. I think critical talent from developed nations in the West. But you see Indians like a murderer sees ghosts LOL

I wonder how the four Chinese soldiers martyred in the Galwan clash would feel, knowing their leaders betrayed them.

They aren't scared little hermits like you. Don't smear your pathetic paranoid fears thoughts onto our nation's heros.

 

[Wrought]

It's times like this which demonstrate the value of democratic centralism over direct democracy. All the screeching ultranationalists have no clue what sensible policy looks like. Just like raising the retirement age, or squeezing the property bubble. Unpopular, yes. But necessary all the same.

A controlled channel for skilled immigrants is a great idea, and well-timed to coincide with the US talent exodus.

 

[JayFalsum]

The mistakes of Western countries do not apply to China. Just because some imcompetent people turned into drug addicts does not mean that prescription drugs should be off limits to everyone.

LMFAO China is perfectly suited to defend against this and the K-visa was made with provisions to expressly forbid its holders from becoming residents or entrenched in China.

Your fear is crippling you. Your solution is to never accept foreign skilled labor into China ever for any duration?

Once again, it's an industry due to the people breaking laws, not from the CCP attempting to prevent and reduce this aberrent behavior.

Blame the specific officials; don't make shit up like China was trying to cull its women and replace them with foreigners.

You're the one who mentally surrendered to Indians even thinking that the K-visa has anything to do with them. When I hear K-visa, I think overseas Chinese, some second generation. I think critical talent from developed nations in the West. But you see Indians like a murderer sees ghosts LOL

They aren't scared little hermits like you. Don't smear your pathetic paranoid fears thoughts onto our nation's heros.

The backlash on Weibo was nearly universal, and only a few dared defend it. When everyone’s against you, who’s really the fool?

 

[manqiangrexue]

The backlash on Weibo was nearly universal, and only a few dared defend it.

What a sad little one-line response to a point-to-point counterargument...

Who makes videos when they support a policy? People make videos when they protest it. Assuming what I'm hearing is correct, that this is a visa for people who possess special skills lacking in China that allows its holders, who are approved on a case-by-case basis, to work in China in 180 day increments over 5 years, I'd have to imagine that the only people who fear it are people who either do not understand the terms and have confused it with mass migration or believe that they will fail in competition against foriegners. Either way, fear for this visa is for Chinese people with deficiencies.

When everyone’s against you, who’s really the fool?

When everyone's against whom? Count the number of support I have on my posts vs the number on yours. You're the fool.

 

[texx1]

CCP implemented strict single child policy which led to the force abortion of millions of Chinese babies. In the end it's to make room for foreigners. No wonder there is so much outrage on Chinese social media regarding K visa.

 

[manqiangrexue]

CCP implemented strict single child policy which led to the force abortion of millions of Chinese babies. In the end it's to make room for foreigners. No wonder there is so much outrage on Chinese social media regarding K visa.

Oh the people here and their pathetic insecurities and their illiteracy thinking that 180 day working visas for specially approved skilled laborers is mass migration. As I had to tell @JayFalsum ,

Chinese Economics Thread

I'm fine with Indian immigration as long it's pretty Indian girls of marital age willing to help fix China's demographic issues. I'm opposed to immigration of foreign men that makes China's gender imbalance worse. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fx1FuU1ClQY So targeting an age range of 18...

www.sinodefenceforum.com

"China's not doing population control on its own population while calling for mass immigration; China had to control its population when it was too poor to properly educate and provide for all of them and now, when it's richer, it is attempting to stimulate fertility in its native population while allowing exceptionally skilled foreign workers to work as guests in China for brief periods."

 

[texx1]

Oh the people here and their pathetic insecurities and their illiteracy thinking that 180 day working visas for specially approved skilled laborers is mass migration. As I had to tell @JayFalsum ,

Chinese Economics Thread

I'm fine with Indian immigration as long it's pretty Indian girls of marital age willing to help fix China's demographic issues. I'm opposed to immigration of foreign men that makes China's gender imbalance worse. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fx1FuU1ClQY So targeting an age range of 18...

www.sinodefenceforum.com

"China's not doing population control on its own population while calling for mass immigration; China had to control its population when it was too poor to properly educate and provide for all of them and now, when it's richer, it is attempting to stimulate fertility in its native population while allowing exceptionally skilled foreign workers to work as guests in China for brief periods."

K visa requirements are so low, it only requires a bachelor degree. It also does not need any Chinese employers' invitation letter. Workers don't even need to secure a Chinese employer before applying for a visa.

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问：申请K字签证需要符合哪些条件和要求？需要提供什么证明材料？

答：K字签证签发给从境内外知名高校或者科研机构科学、技术、工程、数学学科领域专业毕业并获得相应学历学位证书（学士学位及以上）

Minimum academic requirement for K visa is only a bachelor degree (学士学位及以上).

问：与现有签证类型相比，K字签证有何特点？

答：相较于现有的12类普通签证，K字签证将在入境次数、有效期、停留期方面为持证人提供更多便利。持证人入境后可从事教育、科技、文化等领域交流及创业、商务等活动。K字签证仅对年龄和教育背景或工作经历有特定要求，不要求国内有聘用或邀请单位，申办流程也将更为便利。

Applicants don't even need any offer of employment from a Chinese domestic company (不要求国内有聘用或邀请单位)

BTW for truly exceptional talents wanting to work in china, China has R visa on offer for many years already.

 

[manqiangrexue]

You are the angry one here, spitting venom and calling for the culling of people who disagree with you,

The CCP wanted to get rid of uneducated people like you who use words you don't even understand and can't read what a visa means long before I did. To be frank, I'm angry and disappointed at you losers who are supposedly Chinese. I have never considered myself liberal or PC. I have always said that China is a nation for the Chinese to prove to the world that we are the best. But the insecurity I've seen here is disheartening. The K-visa is literally an attempt to snipe the top young tech/STEM talent of foreign countries so that they can serve their usefullness to China and then go home. And what do I see here?

1. This is mass migration! Allowing any skilled foreign talent to enter your country for a brief period is replacing the Chinese population!
2. Indians!!! Ahhh Indians everywhere! They're gonna take over our country!!
3. It's a slippery slope! Once you let one foreigner in, all of them keep pouring in until you don't have a country anymore!
4. They'll take all our women (because we're such unattractive losers)!!

Goddamn you guys are such scared insecure losers. I hope/wish you weren't Chinese. You're a disgrace. One of the most satisfying things about watching the West fail is seeing their insecure losers cry that they're being replaced by foreigners and now I have to see this weak shit in my own country...

just like an incel usually would do.

I'm married with 3 kids, 1 on the way. That's how hard you always miss LMFAO

K visa requirements are so low, it only requires a bachelor degree. It also does not need any Chinese employers' invitation letter. Workers don't even need to secure a Chinese employer before applying for a visa.

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Minimum academic requirement for K visa is only a bachelor degree (学士学位及以上).


Applicants don't even need any offer of employment from a Chinese domestic company (不要求国内有聘用或邀请单位)

BTW for truly exceptional talents wanting to work in china, China has R visa on offer for many years already.

I've wrote on this before, it all depends on how it's implemented. I'm fairly sure that it's not to approve of all applicants who meet the minimum requirements, but rather that the minimum requirements must be met to even be considered. And when they are considered, only those with uniquely needed talents will be invited.

 

[FriedRiceNSpice]

No Indian university is reputable enough to get past the requirements, I bet. If K VISA will be given in more than 20k per year to people outside the Chinese descent, I'll eat Indian slob food for a month, which I hate.

I say put IIT (all the good campuses) on the list of acceptable universities. Indian food is not all bad, butter chicken is pretty good. Oh wait, opps that's actually British, and one of the only two good British dishes (other being fish and chips). Guess lamb biyirani is alright.

It's going to depend on how they handle the K-visa. I think it's certainly not that anyone meeting the requirements is accepted, but rather that anyone failing the requirements is automatically rejected and of those who meet the requirements, they are further screened to determine whether or not they possess some skill that would heavily benefit China to have. So in other words, it's not going to allow a flooding of the Chinese skilled labor market with more of what's there but only to introduce/supplement what we're lacking. Done this way, no one has anything to complain about.

So basically what the H1b should've been, before being abused by greedy corporations?

And anyone advocating for population growth in China must not understand the degree of the involution experienced by the current generation of Chinese. Suggesting anything other than a managed and gradual population decrease is criminal.

 

[august1]

As someone who actually lives in China, I have to say Indians aren't even that bad here. Citizens of a certain "iron brother" are categorically worse.