CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[mack8]

Is there any info/guesstimate as to what the regular Fujian airgroup will be, how many of each type, fighter, ECM, AEW, helos? And while at it is there similar info for how many Liaoning and Shandong typically operate these days, for comparison?

 

[Heliox]

Of all the videos so far, this is my absolute fave moment - The door cracking open to the Fujian flight deck right smack into the KJ-600 with the sound of flight operations going on in the background.



This pilot stepping onto that flight deck is quite symbolic of the PLAN stepping into the next generation of capabilities, very much a RMA "moment" for the PLAN. I reckon every pilot in the PLA would absolutely give their left nut to be him.

 

[vincent]

they also said there was a photo of J-35 showing take off weight of 32t. I have only seen the one will 30t+ for KJ-600. Does anyone have the photo for J-35?

They were drunk (literally). Take that with a huge grain of salt.

 

[siegecrossbow]

They were drunk (literally). Take that with a huge grain of salt.

Don’t drink and podcast…

 

[tphuang]

They were drunk (literally). Take that with a huge grain of salt.

he also repeated it on a separate video looking completely sober

 

[taxiya]

F-35 has an engine with larger diameter due to the increased fan size, but that increase does not translate too much in weight because the increased volume is the bypass duct which is mostly empty. J-35 looks slimer on the side but it has two engines, so looking from top it has much bigger volume than F-35. So although F-35 looks much bulkier it may not be necessarily heavier than J-35. I am not saying J-35 is heavier or of the same weight, but saying that it is not very stretched that J-35 is close to F-35 in max weight.

Also I see someone saying that F-35C has larger wing areas (therefor heavier), that is only true compared to J-35A, J-35 increases the wing area from J-35A in the same way as F-35A to F-35C.

 

[Maikeru]

NavalNews article with some interesting observations on dating the recently released imagery. Seems some was as early as a year ago!

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[tphuang]

F-35 has an engine with larger diameter due to the increased fan size, but that increase does not translate too much in weight because the increased volume is the bypass duct which is mostly empty. J-35 looks slimer on the side but it has two engines, so looking from top it has much bigger volume than F-35. So although F-35 looks much bulkier it may not be necessarily heavier than J-35. I am not saying J-35 is heavier or of the same weight, but saying that it is not very stretched that J-35 is close to F-35 in max weight.

Also I see someone saying that F-35C has larger wing areas (therefor heavier), that is only true compared to J-35A, J-35 increases the wing area from J-35A in the same way as F-35A to F-35C.

J-35 also clearly has a larger nose than J-15T (based on previous photos), so I think it has just a wider interior in the front than F-35C. So, I don't think 32t is out of question here for MTOW.

What is interesting is to see how heavy J-15DT come out as. All that heavy electronics inside is going to weight quite a bit.

 

[BillRamengod]

F-35C has MTOW of 32t. Why can't J-35 have that level of MTOW? Its nose is thicker than J-15. I also don't see why you would know the true MTOW of J-15 off CV-18. That is classified data.



I put this out there just to see if anyone has seen a photo of it. Still looking.

Rewatching all the footage, I only found two numbers.

03100 for KJ-600:


05100 for J-35:

• Didn't see 32. Maybe it is in other footage I didn't check.
• What is the unit of measurement for these numbers, pounds?? Or are they simply codes?

 

[MasterChief291]

Is there any info/guesstimate as to what the regular Fujian airgroup will be, how many of each type, fighter, ECM, AEW, helos? And while at it is there similar info for how many Liaoning and Shandong typically operate these days, for comparison?

I remember someone posting that the ideal carrier air wing for Fujian would be 2 squadrons of J-15T, 2 of J-35, 1 of J-15DT, 1 of KJ-600 and one of Z-20