J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VIII

[tphuang]

GaN radar array is certainly bigger on the J-20 than the array that could fit in the F35 but its hard to compare capabilities. Power available and cooling for the radar is possibly better on J-20, F-35 have trouble with that aspect and without real engine upgrades, not sure how they will manage block 4.

It's not that hard to compare.

Latest J-20 is using GaN-on-SiC TR modules and F-35 is using GaA TR modules. J-20's radar tech is 2 generation ahead. Even with APG-85, J-20's tech will still be one step ahead.

 

[ismellcopium]

It's not that hard to compare.

Latest J-20 is using GaN-on-SiC TR modules and F-35 is using GaA TR modules. J-20's radar tech is 2 generation ahead. Even with APG-85, J-20's tech will still be one step ahead.

Generations are all well and good, but how much of an actual detection ability difference does it translate into, especially against small LO targets like cruise missiles?

 

[bebops]

Many Western military guys and public opinion still think F35 is the best craft in the world.

If J20's radar is 2 gen ahead and equipped with Pl16, the true power will make your opponent sweat. That is a 5.5gen craft just by itself.

With CCA included, its 5.9 gen craft.

 

[Deino]

Just a great image showing J-20 number 61132 from the 2nd Air Brigade together with J-35A number 61821 from the 1st Air Brigade. (Image via @垂直风行 from Weibo)

 

[Deino]

Interesting J-20S (or J-20AS IMO) number 78933 seems to be painted in the regular two-tone grey camouflage instead of the new dark-grey one.

(Image via @huitong's CMA-Blog



PS: In your blog, you labelled it a J-20A!

 

[Amistrophy]

Interesting J-20S (or J-20AS IMO) number 78933 seems to be painted in the regular two-tone grey camouflage instead of the new dark-grey one.

(Image via @huitong's CMA-Blog

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PS: In your blog, you labelled it a J-20A!

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these nozzles look different from the WS10C, and the lack the thicker silver collar of the C2…?

edit: really not sure. it might just be a 10C

 

[Deino]

It's not that hard to compare.

Latest J-20 is using GaN-on-SiC TR modules and F-35 is using GaA TR modules. J-20's radar tech is 2 generation ahead. Even with APG-85, J-20's tech will still be one step ahead.

Pardon in case I missed this, but is there some source for this available?

 

[Nx4eu]

these nozzles look different from the WS10C, and the lack the thicker silver collar of the C2…?!

If you were trying to imply it was the WS-15, it’s not. Because the WS-15 has a thin bronze/brown collar with a much longer nozzle petal. That’s distinctly different than any WS-10 Variants


Visual note, the WS-10C2 has roughly a 25% longer nozzle than the WS-10C, while the WS-15 appears to be 20% longer than the WS-10C2. This may help some identify the differences as well.

 

[Blitzo]

Interesting J-20S (or J-20AS IMO) number 78933 seems to be painted in the regular two-tone grey camouflage instead of the new dark-grey one.

(Image via @huitong's CMA-Blog

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PS: In your blog, you labelled it a J-20A!

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I speculate that it is a dark grey tone -- but that the image has increased the brightness, and also that aircraft with the dark grey tone are still two tone on the dorsal side of the aircraft (but perhaps in a darker grey two tone).

 

[Deino]

Huh.
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Bonus - WS-10C vs the alleged WS-10C2/CXX (seemly used on 2035/37/5X):
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I'm just catching up with all the images I at best saw when I was in Rome but could properly save ... what's the Weibo-account where this comparison of both WS-10C variants was posted?

I speculate that it is a dark grey tone -- but that the image has increased the brightness, and also that aircraft with the dark grey tone are still two tone on the dorsal side of the aircraft (but perhaps in a darker grey two tone).

You are correct!