2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

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Mmmeeeto

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FairAndUnbiased said:
Based on open source data on Iranian and Israeli stockpiles and infrastructure, both sides have enough to deplete air defense and attack infrastructure. Iran has a deep magazine of MRBMs and Israel is small, while Israel has high persistence with short ranged bombs since it now has air superiority in Iran, though not air supremacy yet.

I think by the end of this war, both sides will have an extremely damaged economy and similar %losses.
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This is the first time that Israelis experience daily strikes in their neighborhood. And a few Iranian BM's always get through

Will Israelis keep up with this? They aren't used to it after all
 
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ohan_qwe

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HighGround said:
Its been two days. A few hours is very significant. Fighter sorties are part of any IADS.
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Israel don't only have one airbase. Some countries use roads/autobahn as runways but I don't know if Israel does that.

Launching missiles at powerplants or HQ in Tel Aviv seems to affect the war more than 15 disabled runways out of 100.
 
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Sinnavuuty said:
What amazes me is Israel's military capability in assassinating the IRGC's military leadership. They die like flies.

It seems unbelievable that Mohammad Bagheri and Hossein Salami are dead. The former was the Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces; the latter commanded the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

Amir Ali Hajizadeh also seems unbelievable. He commanded the IRGCASF.
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It was essentially public knowledge for over a decade that Mossad had deeply infiltrated inside Iran and this was proven several times but many Iranian chauvinists refused to accept this.

Similarly for whatever reasons the IRGC was simply unable to rectify this problem, but this infiltration gave an unprecedented advantage to Israel; allowing it to cripple its top military command and map out its critical sites, even launching precision strikes from within Iranian territory against military targets.

This huge infiltration problem plus not having an effective aerial counter to Israeli Air Force proved to be lethal.
 
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HighGround

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ohan_qwe said:
Israel don't only have one airbase. Some countries use roads/autobahn as runways but I don't know if Israel does that.

Launching missiles at powerplants or HQ in Tel Aviv seems to affect the war more than 15 disabled runways out of 100.
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I do not believe Iran has any credible way to degrade Israeli C2. Israel likely has hardened bunkers for their command structure that will withstand anything short of a nuclear blast.

So no, I believe launching missiles at C2 infrastructure is simply a waste with no significant battle effects.

in lieu of that they must focus on other nodes.

Airports are major munitions bases. Even if Israel adapts by launching sorties from the desert, it imposes logistical costs, which reduces Israel’s bandwidth for damage and increases Iran’s penetration capability.

not to mention time. Time for Iran to reorient, reorganize, and plan.
 
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