China's Space Program Thread II

taxiya

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Inspections on the VTVL test vehicle found that it was in great working condition, with the fuselage, engine, tanks, and onboard electrical systems all functional as expected. The rocket was cleaned off and is now ready to be used again.


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The fins design is clear indication that it works very differently from SpaceX (both F9 and Superheavy booster) in recovery, e.g. using air dynamic break instead of rocket thrust to reduce speed when coming back.
 

by78

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ArrowHead/Space Epoch has successfully conducted its first VTVL test. The VTVL test vehicle is a stainless steel rocket with a diameter of 4.2m, a length of 26.8m, and a take-off mass of 57 tons. The test lasted 125 seconds, during which the vehicle reached an altitude of 2.5km before performing a soft splashdown landing in the water. The vehicle successively performed eight tasks: ignition and takeoff, full thrust climb, variable thrust adjustments, engine shutdown, free descent glide, engine restart, deceleration to hover on sea surface, and finally soft landing on the sea surface.

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After the successful VTVL test, ArrowHead/Space Epoch plans to conduct an orbital launch recovery test later this year.

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sabiothailand

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I remember seeing these SpaceX's reuseable rockets that can move and latch itself back on the launch pad while landing.

Seeing the development of the VTVL rocket, I wonder if they could do what SpaceX did.
 

taxiya

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I remember seeing these SpaceX's reuseable rockets that can move and latch itself back on the launch pad while landing.

Seeing the development of the VTVL rocket, I wonder if they could do what SpaceX did.
The return to pad recovery has higher payload penalty therefor not preferred. Besides, return to pad is not more difficult to do than landing on a moving platform at sea. However return to pad does require boost back burn right after 1st stage separation. The Chinese design does not have that burn so it can not return to pad, but it is only because they want to maximize the payload, not because it is difficult.
 

enroger

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The return to pad recovery has higher payload penalty therefor not preferred. Besides, return to pad is not more difficult to do than landing on a moving platform at sea. However return to pad does require boost back burn right after 1st stage separation. The Chinese design does not have that burn so it can not return to pad, but it is only because they want to maximize the payload, not because it is difficult.

I wonder if it is possible to have something like a oil rig platform placed downrange for recovery in the future
 

enroger

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We have that, it's literally called drone ships. SpaceX uses this method of recovery for Falcon 9 while China is in the process of building one.

I'm aware of SpaceX drone ships. But they abandoned this idea after a few trials for some reasons, maybe related to stability of the ship idk, a stable platform should perform much better.

Edit: The platform can also use the proposed steel cable recovery method, imo this is actually superior to SpaceX's current solution
 
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