The Kashmir conflict 2025.

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Don't think China will want to embarrass India any further as it will force them to retaliate against Pakistan to save face. It will not help the current situation as it might blow up again if there are no illusion of Modi and India won this round(At least in Indians own mind). Right now India can still giving out ambivalent answers to their fighter jet loss as long as no one out there can prove what happen May-7th then both side can still have their own win narrative.

We might have to wait 5-6 years from now for the leak 'third party sources' to confirm May 7th shoot downs just like Yankeesama only mention this after a period of time when things don't matter anymore as much.
Third party sources, the French, already confirmed at least one Rafale shootdown and they say they are being prevented by India from investigating if any more were lost.

You can't really embarrass India. When you shoot down/destroy their planes, they just say all your wreckage pictures are AI or just spare parts made to look like a shootdown. Then they claim they shot down 25 of your jets and just repeat it over and over until they all believe each other. When you kill their soldiers, they say the corpses are all dead Pakistanis dressed up as Indians and the actual Indian soldiers all died within 2 weeks after the conflict due to separate traffic accidents. I don't know if it's a brave mask to hide a crying face or if they're really that stupid but you can't embarrass people like that just like you can't embarrass hobos crawling around in mud flinging poop.
 

BoraTas

Major
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Yes for J-10C.

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I don’t recall them being so diplomatic when Western aircraft were decimating Soviet or Russian made Iraqi planes or worse, bombing third world militants with no air defense. Some how that made their gear “battle proven” and “top of the line”. When J-10C makes a kill against an aircraft of the same generation, that apparently doesn’t prove if Chinese gear is good. Double standards much?
The J-10CE got one of the most impressive and well documented kills in the recent decades. Even the combat records of the F-15 and F-16 are mostly Israel farming on Arab-operated 2nd and 3rd gens. None of them ever brought down an AESA equipped fighter. The J-10CE faced the most capable Western export 4.5th gen in equal to adverse conditions and won.
 
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BoraTas

Major
Registered Member
You can't really embarrass India. When you shoot down/destroy their planes, they just say all your wreckage pictures are AI or just spare parts made to look like a shootdown. Then they claim they shot down 25 of your jets and just repeat it over and over until they all believe each other. When you kill their soldiers, they say the corpses are all dead Pakistanis dressed up as Indians and the actual Indian soldiers all died within 2 weeks after the conflict due to separate traffic accidents. I don't know if it's a brave mask to hide a crying face or if they're really that stupid but you can't embarrass people like that just like you can't embarrass hobos crawling around in mud flinging poop.

India became a really weird country in the last 5 years. Galwan, the blockade of Nepal, picking fights with all of its neighbours and even more distant countries like Turkey, declaring victories even after losses, and many other things. They just believe they are righteous and victorious regardless of what happens.

I am honestly not hopeful about the prospects of peace in South Asia. Historically, messianic delusions have only one counter.
 

Black Wolf

Junior Member
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The J-10CE got one of the most impressive and well documented kills in the recent decades. Even the combat records of the F-15 and F-16 are mostly Israel farming on Arab-operated 2nd and 3rd gens. None of them ever brought down an AESA equipped fighter. The J-10CE faced the most capable Western export 4.5th gen in equal to adverse conditions and won.
The J-10CE’s recent combat success is undoubtedly a significant achievement, but while much of the discussion revolves around Chinese platforms and weapons, we shouldn't overlook the vital contribution of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). This engagement was not just a test of hardware, but a demonstration of the PAF’s professionalism, training, and integrated operational capability.

The success was backed by highly skilled pilots, a robust training regime, and the smart integration of platforms through advanced systems like Link-16 and Link-17, ensuring real-time data sharing and enhanced situational awareness across multiple assets. The Erieye AEW&C played a key role in battle management, while the strategic use of the Blinders squadron for electronic warfare and deception further tilted the advantage.

This was more than a single aircraft's performance, it was a showcase of a well-oiled, modern air combat ecosystem built around network-centric warfare principles and local innovation.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Remember where Hitler got much of his inspiration from.

Jai Hinds have always been fanatical poison. It’s just that their incompetence have always surpassed their malice to basically naturally neuter their threat despite their best efforts to cause as much harm as possible to their perceived enemies, which basically boils down to anyone they can’t subjugate and rape at their leisure.
 

PopularScience

Senior Member
Registered Member
The J-10CE’s recent combat success is undoubtedly a significant achievement, but while much of the discussion revolves around Chinese platforms and weapons, we shouldn't overlook the vital contribution of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). This engagement was not just a test of hardware, but a demonstration of the PAF’s professionalism, training, and integrated operational capability.

The success was backed by highly skilled pilots, a robust training regime, and the smart integration of platforms through advanced systems like Link-16 and Link-17, ensuring real-time data sharing and enhanced situational awareness across multiple assets. The Erieye AEW&C played a key role in battle management, while the strategic use of the Blinders squadron for electronic warfare and deception further tilted the advantage.

This was more than a single aircraft's performance, it was a showcase of a well-oiled, modern air combat ecosystem built around network-centric warfare principles and local innovation.
The pilots just press the fire button. nothing extraordinary.
 

sanctionsevader

New Member
Registered Member
India became a really weird country in the last 5 years. Galwan, the blockade of Nepal, picking fights with all of its neighbours and even more distant countries like Turkey, declaring victories even after losses, and many other things. They just believe they are righteous and victorious regardless of what happens.

I am honestly not hopeful about the prospects of peace in South Asia. Historically, messianic delusions have only one counter.
Can add in getting off scott free for assassinating a Canadian Sikh seperatist inside Canada, i say scott free since Trudeau's allies all left him out to dry on that one.
 

Randomuser

Captain
Registered Member
Remember where Hitler got much of his inspiration from.

Jai Hinds have always been fanatical poison. It’s just that their incompetence have always surpassed their malice to basically naturally neuter their threat despite their best efforts to cause as much harm as possible to their perceived enemies, which basically boils down to anyone they can’t subjugate and rape at their leisure.
Now I really get the meaning of that Better Call Saul Quote. It really is true. An irresponsible party like India having nukes is like a chimp with a machine gun.

I used to worry about guys like North Korea or Russia having nukes but compared to India, they look very trustworthy.

 
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