That part is talking about how deep can the torpedoes reach
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That still makes no sense. No combat submarines even have crush depths close to 1000 meters let alone 1500m. Torpedoes don't operate that deep either.
They are certainly on the higher end of specifications but not impossible.
The VA-111 Shkval supercavitating topedo has a top speed of 370km/h and the KH-55SM (extended range KH-55) has a range of 3,000km.
Problem is there is no known weapon in the PLA arsenal that hits those performance figures. The Fastest known torpedo speed is the Yu-9 with a top speed of 110km/h. And the CJ-10 LACM has a range of around 2,000km.
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Looks like it, although I'm not sure where the photo is taken or how official it is.
I'm not sure that speed has any benefit for a HWT in any case. The Shkval was a defensive asset for Soviet submarines resulting from inferior sensor capability tracking American submarines. So the Shkval CONOPS was to perform what the movie Red October popularised as "Crazy Ivan", ie a rapid 180 degree turn, followed by launch of Shkval to deter or destroy a tailing SSN. The technique has AIUI become obsolete even for Russian practices thanks to TAS and generally improved sensors.
A Shkval type torpedo is a deadly weapon If it carry a nuke set to detonate in the middle of a carrier group.
The largest benefit of a new submarine is certainly not torpedo types but silence and resilience.
Supercavitating torpedos can reach 200 knots while normal torpedos max out at around 70 knots. Torpedo speed is actually critical for better hit probability, modern ships are agile enough that simply running away is often possible. The main problem with supercavitation is its as loud as hell... Half the ocean can hear it with their sonar.
There are tons and tons of misconceptions about supercavitating torpedoes in general and Shkval in particular. Again, as far as can be gleamed from relevant conversations with Soviet Navy personnel and known CONOPS of the time VA-111 was operated as an unguided very short ranged self defence asset in support of the developing bastion concept for Soviet submarine forces in the later stages of the Cold War. Even attacking carrier groups (which do not sail in close formation outside of photo ops) with the nuclear warhead would have been a veritable challenge and quite possibly resulted in the loss of the launching submarine.
No modern navy is seriously pursuing supercavitating HWTs, because the technical challenges (guidance, range, detectability) remain rather extraordinary.
I welcome new info on PLAN pursuing such a capability, but in its apparent absence I significantly doubt it. Maybe a few decades down the road a distributed sensor shooter arrangement, such as via UUVs can exploit their capability better.
No modern navy is seriously pursuing supercavitating HWTs, because the technical challenges (guidance, range, detectability) remain rather extraordinary.
I welcome new info on PLAN pursuing such a capability, but in its apparent absence I significantly doubt it. Maybe a few decades down the road a distributed sensor shooter arrangement, such as via UUVs can exploit their capability better.
Later versions of Shkval had higher range.
They could also throttle the engine, the engine also had trust vector control, the torpedo would slow down midway, detect the target, and speed up again.
While you can consider the first version to be just a short range direct fire high speed weapon, the later versions are different.
They could also throttle the engine, the engine also had trust vector control, the torpedo would slow down midway, detect the target, and speed up again.
While you can consider the first version to be just a short range direct fire high speed weapon, the later versions are different.