this is what exactly i have said above.Oh boy, the cope is strong. The attempt at switching to cryogenic fuel is the primary reason China is "falling behind." If cryogenic rockets are so superior, why isn’t China’s cryogenic rocket program automatically successful? Checkmate. Instead of confronting this glaring contradiction, cryogenic fanboy scribbled a page of drivel, blaming failures of Chinese cryogenic rockets on… the existence of hypergolic rockets.
Succumbing to the cryogenic rocket hype was how China got itself into the current mess. The Wenchang launch site should have been built with hypergolic support from the start. That way, while cryogenic rockets matured over time, hypergolic rockets could launch without discarded stages on to villages. This should have been an obvious hedge. Yet, braindead cryogenic fanboys obsess over total abandonment of hypergolic fuel in favor of cryogenic systems, disregarding proper engineering methodologies.
Everyone (read: just the West) screams at China to halt its hypogolic rocket program—not out of concern for sustainability but sheer obstructionism. As soon as China’s cryogenic rocket development got into high gear, the U.S. imposed an embargo on cryogenic technologies. This move tells us hypergolic rockets were never the issue. If that wasn’t clear enough, recall the West’s reaction to successful Long March-5 launches: condemning the rocket as "too big" and its debris as "too risky," recycling the same tired "rockets falling on people" propaganda.
Meanwhile, every accusation is a confession. While loudly criticizing China’s space debris, the West quietly dumped a massive battery pack from the ISS that struck a home five years later. SpaceX’s Starship debris rains over the Caribbean routinely, yet no one bats an eye.
It’s also interesting how the concept of "Jai Hind" got dragged into this. Like Indians fixated on chasing paper performance metrics for imported technologies, cryogenic fanboy mirrors this blind obsession. The drivel merely assumes cryogenic rockets are "advanced"—but advanced according to whom?! Clearly, fanboy lacks critical thinking skills and took Western claims at face value, never asking whether cryogenic rockets are actually suitable for China. All that matters for fanboy is cryogenic rockets stronk! Jai Cryogenic!
You’re right about one thing though: China has made many mistakes over the past decades. First, falling for Western psy-ops promoting cryogenic rockets. Second, failing to hedge at Wenchang launch site. Third, chasing reusable rockets. Basically, China competes against Western strengths with China’s weaknesses. China’s true power lies in mass production, and it should have leaned into that advantage and mass-produce hypergolic rockets like sausages.
all major private firms like LandSpace/Deep Blue/iSpace building large production facilities for mass production of their rockets. same with pulsating line for Engines too. a strong indication what they are planning, using China's industrial prowess for mass production. we have a very strong supply chain of industrial raw material.
by next year end, China might have 3-4 working heavy lift rockets available from private firms. 15-25 tons LEO capacity. not reusable
Gravity2
Nebula2
Zhuque3
Tianlong3
Hyperbola3
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and in Parallel these firms working on reusability too, but Reusability is a very niche feature, complex and time taking process. so Chinese private firms make sure, national space mission won't disrupt. they will gradually shift on reusability once they achieve full success. till then their normal heavy lift rockets will continue to serve national missions.