Chinese air to air missiles

siegecrossbow

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I just realized the ramification of long range AAM. Since to achieve 100KM above hits the missile will go in a parabolic trajectory. When the missile goes pitbull the orientation will be top down, and that’s literally when an aircraft’s RCS is at its max. I wonder if this will allow for very long range kill of fifth and maybe even sixth gen assets as long as the missile can receive data.
 

Wrought

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I just realized the ramification of long range AAM. Since to achieve 100KM above hits the missile will go in a parabolic trajectory. When the missile goes pitbull the orientation will be top down, and that’s literally when an aircraft’s RCS is at its max. I wonder if this will allow for very long range kill of fifth and maybe even sixth gen assets as long as the missile can receive data.

Ballistic AAMs when :p
 

latenlazy

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Ballistic AAMs when :p
This is what the PL-17 does.
I just realized the ramification of long range AAM. Since to achieve 100KM above hits the missile will go in a parabolic trajectory. When the missile goes pitbull the orientation will be top down, and that’s literally when an aircraft’s RCS is at its max. I wonder if this will allow for very long range kill of fifth and maybe even sixth gen assets as long as the missile can receive data.
The J-36 is meant to fly high which means it’s shooting while looking down. Makes you wonder if they can get extended range shot even with PL-15/16s.
 

InsaneHum

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on Twitter is claiming that according to "his sources", the PL-16:
1. Has a smaller diameter than that of PL-15's and next gen fighters can carry more of them in its IWBs.
2. Can handle BVR, WVR and anti-radiation missions.
3. Has a dual-mode seeker with dual-band radar and IR imaging.
4. Improved dual-pulse engine with a TVC nozzle.
5. Range exceeding 300kms, maximum speed exceeding Mach 5. (Obviously just speculation)

We already know that the PL-16 is going to be an improvement over its predecessor, but I'm wondering if some of these claims here are plausible instead of being complete bogus. Have any of y'all heard similar things from top PLA watchers?

If points 2 and 3 are true, then the PLA might be looking to merge the PL-10's mission profile into a multirole missile instead. Could explain why there aren't side IWBs for the J-XDS.
 

qwerty3173

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on Twitter is claiming that according to "his sources", the PL-16:
1. Has a smaller diameter than that of PL-15's and next gen fighters can carry more of them in its IWBs.
2. Can handle BVR, WVR and anti-radiation missions.
3. Has a dual-mode seeker with dual-band radar and IR imaging.
4. Improved dual-pulse engine with a TVC nozzle.
5. Range exceeding 300kms, maximum speed exceeding Mach 5. (Obviously just speculation)

We already know that the PL-16 is going to be an improvement over its predecessor, but I'm wondering if some of these claims here are plausible instead of being complete bogus. Have any of y'all heard similar things from top PLA watchers?

If points 2 and 3 are true, then the PLA might be looking to merge the PL-10's mission profile into a multirole missile instead. Could explain why there aren't side IWBs for the J-XDS.
I can confirm that rumors about dual mode seekers and dual use in WVR scenarios are flying everywhere in relevant social media in china. Smaller diameter not so sure, some say that it has tiny fins and is slightly longer, thus looks like its thinner instead of a truly smaller diameter.
 

AndrewS

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I just realized the ramification of long range AAM. Since to achieve 100KM above hits the missile will go in a parabolic trajectory. When the missile goes pitbull the orientation will be top down, and that’s literally when an aircraft’s RCS is at its max. I wonder if this will allow for very long range kill of fifth and maybe even sixth gen assets as long as the missile can receive data.

Also remember that the more vertical the terminal trajectory is, the more gravitational impulse is available to the missile.

It would be equivalent to a small rocket motor at the end.
 
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