H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

[Jason_]

H-20 will be designed to close the current capability gaps in the PLA. This means irreplaceable missions like:
1. Sustained, high intensity conventional strike against Australia/Hawaii
2. Sustained, high intensity conventional strike against CONUS
3. High yield nuclear strike against CONUS, including against deeply buried targets
4. Long range maritime interdiction, including in the Atlantic and off the US coast

Missions like AEW are tactical and much less important and can be performed by a variety of existing. Its not impossible that the H-20 can in some way perform this mission thanks to the flexibility of modern sensors but I cannot see the PLAAF making any compromises on the core features of the H-20 to support this mission, which are 1. all aspect broad band VLO stealth 2. range 3. payload.

 

[niwashi]

Latest ChaHuaHui mentioned (~35:20): “there’s no chance we get to see ‘Water’ (H-20) on the Sept 3rd military parade”.

A hint that Guacha guys know the rough status and timeline of H-20? Or am I just overthinking

 

[Tomboy]

Latest ChaHuaHui mentioned: “there’s no chance we get to see ‘Water’ (H-20) on the Sept 3rd military parade”.

Does that infer the Guacha guys know the rough status and timeline of H-20? Or am I just overthinking

They probably know something because they mentioned before that H-20 prototype is under construction already but stuff like H-20 appearing at VJ parade this year is just ridiculous any serious PLA watcher would know that the H-20 would be a no show.

 

[Matrixdet]

Latest ChaHuaHui mentioned (~35:20): “there’s no chance we get to see ‘Water’ (H-20) on the Sept 3rd military parade”.

A hint that Guacha guys know the rough status and timeline of H-20? Or am I just overthinking

There were also related rumors in 2019. I believe the situation this year won't be any different.

 

[latenlazy]

There were also related rumors in 2019. I believe the situation this year won't be any different.

Now that we know how close 6th gen capabilities are the delay makes a lot more sense. Getting a 5th gen level bomber into the field in the late 2020s to early 2030s timeframe would have made no sense.

 

[Blitzo]

Latest ChaHuaHui mentioned (~35:20): “there’s no chance we get to see ‘Water’ (H-20) on the Sept 3rd military parade”.

A hint that Guacha guys know the rough status and timeline of H-20? Or am I just overthinking

The idea of not seeing H-20 on the September 3rd parade would be obvious and logical regardless of the situation.

Considering it has yet to fly yet, it is a forgone conclusion that it wouldn't appear at the parade.

 

[mack8]

Maybe what they meant was it's not going to fly before the parade?

 

[RedGreekRevolt]

Yeah, H-20 is like submarine in the navy. Just like Type 055 and Type 054B received a lot of publicity while Type 095 and Type 096 still shrouded in secrecy.

Man, hopefully won't take as long as 95/96. Basically not getting the Ukrainians to sell the Tu-160 in the 90's set back the new strategic bomber program by 35 years.

 

[a985010812]

制造一架可以到达/攻击美国本土，同时又具有足够隐身性以穿透防空系统的轰炸机是一项艰巨的任务，甚至比 B-2 更艰巨，因为美国空军在空中加油能力和前沿基地方面更胜一筹，并且之前就拥有成熟的大型轰炸机航空工业。H-20 项目比任何 J-20 甚至 J-XD 战斗机项目都更加雄心勃勃。对于美国来说，B-2 项目耗时约 16 年，而对于苏联来说，Tu 160 项目耗时约 15 年。然而，这两个国家在制造轰炸机方面都已经拥有丰富的经验，而中国需要做的基本上是建造第一架比 Y-20 更大的战略轰炸机。并且要比 B-2 隐身/更隐身，而中国只在制造 H-6 或 Y-20 作为大型军用规格飞机方面有经验。

更不用说该项目完全处于绝对保密状态。像轰-20这样的战略武器与其说是战斗机，不如说更像是09VI型或中国人民解放军火箭军（PLARF）。我们看到中国第六代轰炸机在轰-20之前试飞，这并不奇怪。甚至可能轰-20的原型机已经存在，而我们绝对不可能获得任何信息，中国新型三位一体核武库的武器一直以来都比其他所有平台都具有更高的保密性。如果轰-20真的像许多人所说的那样进行了改进，我认为超音速巡航战略轰炸机在2035年之前都不会亮相。

另一个原因是，这可能并不紧迫。核打击有战略弹道导弹，而H6足以胜任西太平洋的常规任务。如果中美开战，那可能是一场非核战争，因此还有时间重新设计。这是一件好事。我们可能会看到与B2和B21设计不同的轰炸机。

 

[a985010812]

我其实认为轰-20这样的大型隐形飞机最好的用途是成为一个隐形多用途平台。比如隐形预警机，隐形加油机，隐形电子战飞机。运9基本上就是这样的。

这些大型特种飞机虽然实用，但极易被远程防空火力击落。因此，提升其生存力的下一个最佳方案是将其打造为隐形平台。

当然，轰炸机方面会存在，但我不认为这是让如此昂贵的平台值得主要方面。

它甚至可能是发射超远程防空导弹的预警机。射程甚至比歼-36能发射的任何导弹都更远、更大。可能性有。

预警机不可能隐形，这是物理特性决定的，就像打开手电筒就能隐形一样。