The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[siegecrossbow]

Apart from small RCS, if the missiles were coming from outside of the roughly 60 degree detection cone they won't see it too. Which is very likely if they were hit while returning

That's why AWACS are so important, if they really went without AWACS it would be the height of folly among many of their mistakes

Not really. PL-15’s NEZ shortens significantly if the target is facing the other way.

 

[xyz4321]

Rafale's avionics are clearly not doing anything because they couldn't even see the incoming missile.

Sounds like PL-15 has some on board jammers, ECM, decoy, EW capabilities.

I was surprised to find out that Bangladesh's economy is now about the same size as Pakistan's, despite the latter having 50% more population.

I don't think anyone is optimistic about Pakistan's future, as well as the long term position vs India.

Fortunately, by that point, China will likely have established a stronger foothold in the Indian Ocean region and be in a better position to play a larger role.

But first, a certain island needs to be dealt with...

Bangladesh didn't have 40 years of war on it's border with two superpowers involved.

Here is the problem with your argument. The reason China's arms don't sell is because of politics, not because other countries think China's arms are not good.

The biggest problem is imo if you sell to certain countries, there is a good chance they will share the data with China's adversaries. Pretty much all the Gulf Arabs are suspect as well as LATAM except maybe Venezuela and Cuba. I'm certain Pakistan received some data on Rafales from Egypt and Qatar.

Instead of talking about it, Pakistan should do it. You can’t reason with the Hindutva. They are as extreme as the Zionists. Only when their wet dreams of surpassing China as an economic and industrial power are going down the drain will they want a ceasefire.

Hindutva aren't that brave yet. They know they cannot shape the international narrative in their favor like Zionists do who've infiltrated all the positions of authority in Western countries. Nor do they have infinite backing of foreign countries.

I feel like Indian military is pragmatic and knows it's limits but is forced to deal with delusional politicians who think they're invincible. So, the military gets goaded into conflict they aren't sure of themselves.

Now, despite the whatever ceasefire, the Indus River treaty is still suspended which will inevitably lead to conflict in the future.

I remember very well Indians were boasting about Rafale would dominating J-10C with Meteor and the godly SPECTRA when they first got them. And even J-20 were paper tiger from Temu that get tracked by their Su-30MKI.

But sadly Indians were not alone, I see quite a few Pakistani members including mods who have the same opinion on J-10C vs Rafale on their site back then. Thea's why it was so satisfying to see the result the last few days.

It's always better to encourage nonsense and false glory among the opponent. Make them believe their equipment is the best.

Missiles have fairly low radar cross section and are hard to detect from the frontal profile.

How does the MAWS pick it up?

 

[iewgnem]

Apart from small RCS, if the missiles were coming from outside of the roughly 60 degree detection cone they won't see it too. Which is very likely if they were hit while returning

That's why AWACS are so important, if they really went without AWACS it would be the height of folly among many of their mistakes

I think typically incoming missile warning is done through IR (not imaging) and detecting seeker RF pulses for reasons you mentioned.
AESA seeker in LPI mode produces UWB pulses that only dedicated detector might have a chance to catch, and considering SPETRA was developed in the 2000s they'd have zero reason to require LPI seeker warning.

 

[N00B]

Imagine after the dust settles its discovered all these so called attacks didn't do much in the end and yet India still signed the ceasefire thinking it did something big. Its basically getting scammed into thinking it was signing a good deal when it was actually getting little for it.

You figure with how they are so good at swindling others, they would be experts at it and not get swindled themselves.

The AFBs weren't targeted for full destruction in any case. It was a message that we can treat your AFBs as a plaything, anywhere across the length and breadth of Pakistan. And it worked exactly as expected. Bolari, the last AFB to be bombed, was bombed in the afternoon on 10th. Few hours later Pakistan agreed for cease-fire. They were launching ballistic missile to Delhi the previous day (shot down by Indian AD).

Mass attack happened only against the camps and we all saw the funeral photographs.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Indians are lamenting on twitter, they are talking about how they were winning but timid Modi made them lose. Nationalist chest thumping on Media has backfired on Modi

Strangely how wannabe Hitler is turning into the “Jews and Commies” who stabbed Bhaktland in the back before the hour of triumph.

lol will be hilarious if this stunt ends up costing Modi votes instead...

Dude deserves to be put in prison for war crimes. Losing a crummy vote is too good for him.

 

[Randomuser]

More Trump BS I guess

 

[siegecrossbow]

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More Trump BS I guess

Ironic since both sides denied that a third party is responsible.

Looks like citrus commander really wants that Nobel Peace Prize.

 

[xyz4321]

The AFBs weren't targeted for full destruction in any case. It was a message that we can treat your AFBs as a plaything, anywhere across the length and breadth of Pakistan.

There wasn't even major partial destruction. Not a single aircraft hit. I guess you could say this for any miss hit then; it sounds more like you succeeded in targeting civilian infrastructure while failing to cause any reasonable damage to military assets.

 

[ENTED64]

Well I guess Trump can say that all his comments during the campaign about bringing a major war to a close in 24 hours was actually actually India/Pakistan. Cuz he's a time traveler and this was all part of the plan from the get go. Nevermind any comments about Ukraine/Russia or the comments from India/Pakistan that he wasn't really involved.

 

[enroger]

Not really. PL-15’s NEZ shortens significantly if the target is facing the other way.

That depends a lot on whether they're in full AB gtfo mode or unsuspecting subsonic mode

I think typically incoming missile warning is done through IR (not imaging) and detecting seeker RF pulses for reasons you mentioned.
AESA seeker in LPI mode produces UWB pulses that only dedicated detector might have a chance to catch, and considering SPETRA was developed in the 2000s they'd have zero reason to require LPI seeker warning.

Yeah I mentioned the possibility of LPI in earlier post. Even if the French wanted to include LPI detection functionality in their avionics it is quite a technical challenge