The Kashmir conflict 2025.

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The Kashmir conflict 2025.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/india-pakistan-attack-kashmir-tourists-intl-hnk#cmaehu00l00003b6qe1qvr6z7 I remember a Pakistani official stating that over 70 IAF aircraft were in the skies while the PAF had 27 aircraft in the skies.
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The Kashmir conflict 2025.

It is a little known fact that the original J-10 was designed with Dassault software. Kinda awkward looking back now. However, Dassault Systemes and Dassault Aviation are actually separate companies with limited interaction. Although they are both under Dassault Group.
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The Chandigarh airport is the base of C-17 and IL-76 cargo planes, aswell as CH-47 Chinooks heavy-duty helicopters.
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GiantPanda said:
Claims are up to 7 from what I read. This is pretty modest when we hear about the numbers of fighters involved -- CNN reported up to 125 from both sides being in the air.

Seems to me that Pakistan is claiming what it reasonably thinks are possible hits. Considering that all hits would have been on the Indian side of the border and we've seen evidence of at four crashes then I have pretty high confidence in the PAF claims.

What is surprising from the Indian side is the complete irrelevance of the Su-30MKI. Again.

Like in the 2019, the only news of the MKI (besides being a victim) is of it "dodging" AAMs. This is a heavy-weight platform that is supposed to be the backbone of the IAF. It is literally the majority of its modern fighters.

Having Rafales and a MiG-21 being involved in the mix and getting shot down while your heavyweight fighter is doing nothing but dodging is hilariously sad.

Can you imagine the J-16 letting J-10s and J-7s take point in any conflict?
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Can you please link any evidence to the 7 claims?

Up till now I've only heard claims of 5 fighter jet kills, +1 drone. The drone was also confirmed with wreckage footage.
 
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cute orca:

Rafale's flight performance is quite decent, no worse than the J-10C; the Typhoon's flight performance is even better than the Rafale's.

But it can’t change anything — time has changed
 
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Blitzo said:
I don't think it's quite that dramatic, materially.

This is mostly reputational from the perspective of the west.
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Now a Taiwan AR done successfully in a great manner impeccable way-quick,bloodless(hopefully) will be a "Tsushima moment" for China.However don't let this delightful moment of victory escape its much larger implications-this has given our adversaries more then a little pause in their calculus against us-the reverse would see a much ramping up of belligerence even by india.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
It’s not over yet. Despite the Pakistanis Civilian government jumping up and down the Air Force is surprisingly silent compared with 2019. Something is brewing, and I believe it will be something big.
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The easy and dumb thing to do would be immediate attacks on the closest Indian bases. India would be ready and waiting for that. The smart move would be unobvious things, like drone-boat attacks on fat targets... And those take a while to get ready...
 
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My gut feeling is the same — we should keep a close watch on the Kashmir region. Yesterday, they nearly dismantled the Jammu Air Base, which suggests that something significant might be unfolding.

Given that over 700,000 Indian Army personnel are stationed in the area, the situation warrants serious attention.


Fingers crossed.
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If you observe the trend, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) appeared to focus primarily on airbases in regions like Amritsar, Jalandhar, Jammu, Pathankot, and Chandigarh, suggesting the existence of a deliberate strategic doctrine behind these actions.
 
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Observer1 said:
This is the most accurate thread I've seen with evidence included.

Probable kills are:

- 1x Rafale
- 1x Mirage-2000 (potentially misidentified as a Rafale too)
- 1x Su-30MKI
- 1x MiG-29UPG

I think the 5th kill wasn't successful, but BVR missiles were confirmed fired, this may be the 5th total kill they are claiming. (Likely what they believe is a Rafale)

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3 rafale

1 one with M88 engine & tail in a farm field crash site, second explosion kills bystanders
2 one with Rafale specific launch rail, a video clip shot in the dark
3 one with a French drop tank in a front yard, crash roofs in surroundings

2 Russia jet crash site, and one likely Mirage2000 crash site picture of engine and nose dome.
 
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