The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[phrozenflame]

Conclusion: India attempted a SEAD op, they fired and spent 25 drones ($250m) and at max did some damage to an auxiliary vehicle, part of air defense network site and drones fell out in mostly random areas.

Another massive failure.

Pakistan neutralized the drones using soft and hard kill methods.

India HAD to do this after the humiliation of the first round of aggression. Modi needs to find enough material so atleast they can claim a win in alternate reality, like how they awarded Abhinandan for shooting down an imaginary F-16.

A source mentioned these were immediately jammed and disconnected from ground control in India. Some just loitered and ran out of endurance and fell. In many of the cases, not a single bullet had to be fired to neutralize them.

 

[xyz4321]

I'm super surprised and impressed a decade old radar technology hit a modern European jet. 100 year old tech in China time is like 20 year old, and it still works!

BTW, looks like India lost a chopper last night, either crashed by itself, or shot down by own SAM. Very Indian lol

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Looks like they are trying to reenact 2019: shoot own chopper, ACM retires mid-conflict, lose aircraft to PAF. Now just need a IAF pilot captured.

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Pak Army gives statement: 12 harop drones intercepted, 1 got through and inflicted partial damage to a military installation in Lahore, 4 soldiers injured, elsewhere 1 civilian injured and 1 killed; Israel is named.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920410353927655424

12 harops .. $120m for one partial hit? After suffering near $1b in aircraft losses the previous night. This is turning out to be quite an expensive and ineffective attack.

Was this gun destroyed? None of the videos online I've seen show it destroyed. It fires at an Indian drone and then something falls around a hundred metres from it... possibly a part of whatever it was shooting at.

Maybe it gets destroyed later and they located it based on this video of it shooting?

There's another video of it after firing there is smoke around it from the rounds. Some Indian cut up the video and said the smoke is from a drone strike.

 

[Randomuser]

Conclusion: India attempted a SEAD op, they fired and spent 25 drones ($250m) and at max did some damage to an auxiliary vehicle, part of air defense network site and drones fell out in mostly random areas.

Another massive failure.

Pakistan neutralized the drones using soft and hard kill methods.

India HAD to do this after the humiliation of the first round of aggression. Modi needs to find enough material so atleast they can claim a win in alternate reality, like how they awarded Abhinandan for shooting down an imaginary F-16.

A source mentioned these were immediately jammed and disconnected from ground control in India. Some just loitered and ran out of endurance and fell. In many of the cases, not a single bullet had to be fired to neutralize them.

Wonder how Pakistan is going to respond to this. Do they have their own drones to do such a thing?

 

[PaulDirac]

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Apparently this Pakistanis AA gun got nailed by Indian suicide drone because they triangulated the position based on information gathered from uploaded video…

Sorry there is no evidence of that ever happened.

 

[Fatty]

Was this gun destroyed? None of the videos online I've seen show it destroyed. It fires at an Indian drone and then something falls around a hundred metres from it... possibly a part of whatever it was shooting at.

Maybe it gets destroyed later and they located it based on this video of it shooting?

I have yet to see a single secondary explosion from any of these claimed “hits.” Just a fire in a field and some broken windows. Don’t know how Indians can delude themselves like this

 

[sheogorath]

12 harops .. $120m for one partial hit? After suffering near $1b in aircraft losses the previous night. This is turning out to be quite an expensive and ineffective attack.

The Harops are probably ancient tech compared to the advancements made in the last 3 years so it would make sense to perform badly, regardless of the user in this instance.


This does show that some armies haven't learn any lesson with regards the Ukraine war, though

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920375906880704553

 

[phrozenflame]

Wonder how Pakistan is going to respond to this. Do they have their own drones to do such a thing?

Even if they didnt, they can have them delivered on a speed dial in 12 hours . The delay would be training, but we have plenty of talent in that, being the reigning Tekken champions for years .

 

[supersnoop]

The track width seems too narrow, the tyres seem too small, there's a tyre on the rear? like a spare tyre? Doesn't pass the smell check. Definitely has camo so its a military vehicle (or presenting as one) but I'm not convinced that's a AD setup.

Add the high roof, could be something you just serve meals from...

Also, is that unpainted aluminum trim on the trailer on the other pic? Really makes it seems like a dressed up vehicle to look more "military" for driving around base.

 

[bsdnf]

I'm super surprised and impressed a decade old radar technology hit a modern European jet. 100 year old tech in China time is like 20 year old, and it still works!

BTW, looks like India lost a chopper last night, either crashed by itself, or shot down by own SAM. Very Indian lol

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It's not surprising

10 years ago many fighters including many Rafale didn't even have an AESA radar, while PLA had long ago put it on the disposable missile radars of the HQ-9, and the PL-15 which was started production at the time. In fact, there are still many AA missiles that do not have AESA seekers.

Since the last decade, the PLA’s radar technology goal has not been to catch up with the United States, but to be ahead of the United States.

 

[neutralobserver]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920486526699413773

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920484388191572006

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920475086106046603