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Iracundus

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burritocannon said:
the real takeaway though is that starship troopers is a cult classic because it makes socially acceptable what otherwise isn't. you think the audience actually muses "hrmmm yessss i'm in the mood to watch starship troopers because the bugs are actually the good guys???"

no. deep down, they need that dose of facism.
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You know in the original Heinlein story, the bugs were an allegory for the Chinese? (or at least a Western stereotype of them as dehumanized mindless swarming hordes)
 
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burritocannon

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let's not get lost in the whole morality framework either. "fascism bad" are not the words of heaven. it is a construct of man, made to serve earthly purposes. it merely borrows heavenly aesthetics in order to better serve those purposes. western morality is crafted by the west to serve western interests, and do not think for a moment that they will allow it to be reversed on themselves by the foreign other.

to accuse them of hypocrisy is only to admit that you have fallen into their conceptual gravity, that you too see the world as they dictate you ought to. thusly they win, even when they lose.
 
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zbb said:
You have it backwards, the Klingons represented the Chinese, the Romulans were the Soviets (or Eastern Europeans/Warsaw Pact), Vulcans were the Western Europeans, and the Federation (humans + Vulcans) was NATO.
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Uh no, the Klingons were clearly the Soviets. Star Trek VI with its Not Chernobyl power plant accident was glaringly obvious as an allegory. The writers behind Star Trek have also confirmed that originally in TOS the Klingons were Soviets and the Romulans were Chinese. That changed around the time of TNG as Klingons morphed into Space Vikings
 
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zyklon said:
Steve Miran's "century bonds" proposal isn't principally intended to generate monetary returns for extremely patient purchasers of US sovereign debt.

Instead, buyers will primarily be "rewarded" with American security guarantees, which Miran frames as "global public goods."

In this regard,
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To this end,
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will work too as far as Miran is concerned:

To put it crudely, Uncle Sam doesn't intend to sell "century bonds" so much as to collect protection money.
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Given the fact the Hegemon has to rally its vassals to take on China (means it can’t take on China alone), and the fact the West couldn‘t stop Russia from smashing Ukraine, how much the “protection” from the Hegemon worth?
 
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