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Phead128

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This is probably going to be a situation like mutual withdrawal 20km back from line of control, where both sides claim victory, but in reality, the Chinese ends up getting even better tariff rates. MAGA doesn't understand math, just the appearance of strength and enough spin is sufficient to satiate them.
 

supercat

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The Trump administration plans to use ongoing tariff negotiations to pressure U.S. trading partners to limit their dealings with China, according to people with knowledge of the conversations.

The idea is to extract commitments from U.S. trading partners to isolate China’s economy in exchange for reductions in trade and tariff barriers imposed by the White House. U.S. officials plan to use negotiations with more than 70 nations to ask them to disallow China to ship goods through their countries, prevent Chinese firms from locating in their territories to avoid U.S. tariffs, and not absorb China’s cheap industrial goods into their economies.

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One brain behind the strategy is Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who has taken a leading role in the trade negotiations since Trump announced a 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs for most nations—but not China—on April 9.

Bessent pitched the idea to Trump during an April 6 meeting in Mar-a-Lago, said people familiar with the discussion, saying that extracting concessions from U.S. trading partners could prevent Beijing and its firms from avoiding U.S. tariffs, export controls and other economic measures, the people said.

Bessent's head is absolutely going to roll if there are no major breakthroughs at the end of the 90 day period. The very fact that China has traded blow for blow with the US ought to give all the other nations a lot of confidence in negotiations.

The tactic is part of a larger strategy being pushed by Bessent to isolate the Chinese economy, which has gained traction among Trump officials recently. Debates over the scope and severity of U.S. tariffs are ongoing, but officials largely appear to agree with Bessent’s China plan.

It involves cutting China off from the U.S. economy with tariffs and potentially even cutting Chinese stocks out of U.S. exchanges. Bessent didn’t rule out the administration trying to delist Chinese stocks in a recent interview with Fox Business. "
Good luck.
 

jiajia99

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The White House said China is now facing up to a 245 percent tariff on imports to the U.S. "as a result of its retaliatory actions," another escalation in a trade war between the world's two largest economies.

The top potential tariff is higher than the previously stated 145 percent and was referenced in a fact sheet published by the White House late on Tuesday.

It accompanied an executive order signed by President Donald Trump that launched an investigation into the "national security risks posed by U.S. reliance on imported processed critical minerals and their derivative products."

Newsweek has contacted the White House press office by email outside of normal business hours for comment.

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What on earth is bigger than numbers supposed to do other then make his supposedly big shaft (how he says it) seem bigger, I mean given his age and current poor health, it simply doesn’t translate to better performance where it truly matters and his wife (gold digger) is still unsatisfied any way.
 

Laviduce

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Piracy is legal according to the US (when the US does it):


With a massive numerical advantage in the Pacific, China's People's Liberation Army-Navy would present a potentially overwhelming challenge for American forces in the event of open war... but could a little-discussed concept from centuries ago help America overcome China's numerical advantage? Let's talk about issues Letters of Marque in the modern era... and why American pirates might not be as crazy as they seem. - Alex Rollings

TL,DR: Far-right jingoistic nutjob justifies US piracy.

Question: How would China counter this form of terrorism ?
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Piracy is legal according to the US (when the US does it):


With a massive numerical advantage in the Pacific, China's People's Liberation Army-Navy would present a potentially overwhelming challenge for American forces in the event of open war... but could a little-discussed concept from centuries ago help America overcome China's numerical advantage? Let's talk about issues Letters of Marque in the modern era... and why American pirates might not be as crazy as they seem. - Alex Rollings

TL,DR: Far-right jingoistic nutjob justifies US piracy.

Question: How would China counter this form of terrorism ?
Pirates and mercs aren't protected by the Geneva Conventions.
 

Eventine

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Piracy is legal according to the US (when the US does it):


With a massive numerical advantage in the Pacific, China's People's Liberation Army-Navy would present a potentially overwhelming challenge for American forces in the event of open war... but could a little-discussed concept from centuries ago help America overcome China's numerical advantage? Let's talk about issues Letters of Marque in the modern era... and why American pirates might not be as crazy as they seem. - Alex Rollings

TL,DR: Far-right jingoistic nutjob justifies US piracy.

Question: How would China counter this form of terrorism ?
Seriously, this is click bait.

If China has a numerical advantage in warships, it can easily get a numerical advantage in "piracy" as well.

But this isn't the 13th century any more, your average "pirate" will stand no chance against any military boat or short range drones, and putting together some cheap escorts for cargo ships won't be a problem.

Blow the pirates up a couple of times and pretty soon they'll stop pirating.

Not to mention, China probably won't be doing much global trading in the middle of a war, any way.
 

Matcher6130

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Piracy is legal according to the US (when the US does it):


With a massive numerical advantage in the Pacific, China's People's Liberation Army-Navy would present a potentially overwhelming challenge for American forces in the event of open war... but could a little-discussed concept from centuries ago help America overcome China's numerical advantage? Let's talk about issues Letters of Marque in the modern era... and why American pirates might not be as crazy as they seem. - Alex Rollings

TL,DR: Far-right jingoistic nutjob justifies US piracy.

Question: How would China counter this form of terrorism ?
Shoot them? Not sure what kind of answer you were expecting. All a letter de marque does is legally sanction naval mercenaries, AKA privateers. For all intense and purposes they'd be no different than the US hiring Blackwater mercenaries to attack China.

Because i have some free time and I'm bored, I'll point out the obvious issue of how this "solution" is reclusive. Hollingsworth is saying the PLAN has a numerical advantage, so the US should employ privateers. Okay fine, where are they going to get the ships? If Elon Musk wants to LARP Apartheid D. Luffy and drops $100 billion on a carrier fleet, who's going to build those ships or sell him those planes?

Second, privateers could partially self-fund because they primarily targeted rich merchant ships. Let's say that's exactly what Apartheid D. Luffy does. What merchant ships is he going to rob to keep his fleet funded, when this is being sanctioned during war time? Nobody is going to sail billions of dollars in goods when a stray missile could sink the whole ship from 1000km away. Even if we assume a magical world where Captain Muskrat and his Klansman crew have plenty of ships to plunder, who's buying? Sell a million looted iPhones to Japan? Fence BYD cars to Mexico? Do a fire sale of generic aspirin in New Zealand?

I'm not going to dignify Alex Hollings by interpreting his videos are anything more than poorly researched clickbait so I'll say this: the stupidity of this idea is only superceded by his q-anon anti-gravity video.
 
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