It’s ironic that he talks about the debt and deficit but his tax cuts is projected to increase the deficit by $11 trillion in 10 years. 10 year treasury bond will only go up. In a couple year debt interest will be as large as the defense budget. We are about 10-15 years away from a major debt crisis in the US. Also the DOGE cuts are purging the bureaucracy making govt less efficient. Experienced people in departments are being fired. To be replaced by people who have no experience. Things are so bad Elon was on X begging retired air traffic controllers to come back to work. And add that the Atlanta fed is forecasting recession in kings are about to get real interesting. Trying to cut social safety nets in the midst of a recession while inflation rising due to tariffs is a recipe for disaster.
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I don't think there are any liberals in power in the US. You could say that democrats are center right with the exception of someone like Bernie Sanders.
This actually made my bullshit detector go off. Trump's outrage yesterday was probably an attempt to distract from a market crash and a bad economic indicator. Just one month into his administration he messed up. Maybe yesterday was an attempt to move the conversation to something else. Maybe distract everyone from DOGE's illegal activities.
If he lets it crash now he can still blame it on Biden. If it happens a year after inauguration he has no one but himself to blame.
You lost me at "MUH SHARED VALUES”—as if lofty ideals, not cold necessity and geopolitical reality, drove then-P.M. Mackenzie-King’s government to cave to U.S. President FDR’s strategic maneuvering. Let’s not rewrite history: the 1940 Ogdensburg Agreement wasn’t some kumbaya moment. It was a survival play, forced by a world on fire, where Canada traded pretense of autonomy for American protection.
But sure, keep bleating about “shared values” while ignoring the raw calculus that actually binds nations.
The agreement resulted into the following:
- Establishment of the Permanent Joint Board on Defense (PJBD)
- Created a joint military committee with officials from both countries
- Tasked with coordinating defense plans and policies for North America
- Continues to exist today as an advisory body on North American defense issues
- Enhanced Canada-U.S. Relations
- Strengthened bilateral ties, especially in defense cooperation
- Established a framework for coordinated defense planning
- Reflected a commitment to shared security in North America
- Strategic Positioning
- Served as a preemptive defense measure against potential Axis threats
- Focused on defending the "north half of the Western Hemisphere"
- Aligned with UN Charter obligations for maintaining international peace and security
- Economic and Political Implications
- Laid groundwork for future economic collaboration (e.g., Hyde Park Declaration of 1941)
- Addressed sovereignty concerns while aiming to maintain Canada's autonomy
- Represented a shift in Canadian foreign policy, balancing U.S. and British relations
While the decision enjoyed broad support among Canadians, there were *notable exceptions*—including a certain former Conservative P.M. (whose name I can’t be bothered to Google)—who argued it would erode Canada’s "SOVEREIGNTY."
The chaos of Nazi Germany’s blitzkrieg, which crushed France—a preeminent European power—in mere weeks, forced leaders of the era to confront reality. They prioritized national defense and pragmatically aligned with the rising superpower: the U.S., then as now.
What began as Lloyd Mackenzie-King’s vision—positioning Canada as a sovereign “middle power” bridging Britain and the U.S.—degenerated into a lopsided bargain. Instead of autonomy, it birthed a vassal-state dynamic that you, and many others, now grudgingly acknowledge.
If this resistance is such a noble cause, such a war to wage, then by all means, send—or don't—your absent soldiers to fight, along with the Eurocucks. But until then, Canada needs a policy that recognizes the new world order and that its quasi-fake relationship and parasitic nature off the U.S. security-economic-diplomatic umbrella is never to be the same. Canada needs a policy that operates in the world today, not in the fabricated international society from which it hopes to forever hold onto.
But it seems to me that still, far too many Canadians see this as a TRUMP ISSUE—not an AMERICAN ISSUE or a GEOPOLITICAL DISASTER that requires an ENTIRE CHANGE.
Don't come crying to me if your great solution for avoiding such calamitous threats is a wait-and-see approach hoping the Democrats vote in your favor. Open your eyes. Stop the charade. Get with it.
"everything he does is almost entirely unprecedented"
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What !
From what distant planet, from what remote galaxy have you come?
If you can assassinate the head of the army of a democratic and allied country, where is the limit for Washington?
What bothers you as a Westerner is that the coalition in power in Washington since 1963 now does not see dissimulation as useful.
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What !
From what distant planet, from what remote galaxy have you come?
If you can assassinate the head of the army of a democratic and allied country, where is the limit for Washington?
What bothers you as a Westerner is that the coalition in power in Washington since 1963 now does not see dissimulation as useful.
Trump is a fool if he thinks he can deflect criticism now. He blamed a plane crash on Obama. Musk was in his office drawing all the attention. If he thinks he can tell the people to not take attention at his chaos, he is a fool.
General Schneider, in a moment perhaps of 'temporary madness', said: we, the military, must respect the Constitution and Democracy
and the alarms rang: this man is "the stopper", we have to remove the stopper to place our man, a certain Pinochet
and the alarms rang: this man is "the stopper", we have to remove the stopper to place our man, a certain Pinochet
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No, shared values is a very real thing.
For a largely superficial - during good times - loss of sovereignty, whole nations get "shared values" of being the rightest, truest guys in the world. 8 nation alliance feeling, but just for some bending the knee - only at the very top of the society.
Both sides are happy in this arrangements.
But, at the same time - when times get bad, shared people get measured. Useless ones are asked to pay for themselves.
Useful/unavoidable ones risk experiencing optimization of a redundant layer of management.
When values become so aligned, governor general becomes really quite sufficient.
This is a great analysis. It really shows the key to this break down in relations is not just differing interests, which are obviously important, but also the personalities of the leaders involved.
Ultimately diplomacy and politics is conducted by humans and humans have needs, wants, and urges. Trump is a public man with a giant ego, and as a public man with a giant ego, he cannot tolerate being contradicted or talked down to in front of the world.
But even beyond that, Trump is not a fan of the "liberal international order." In many respects, he hates liberals; and in any case he's never once coached his rhetoric or his politics in liberalism. Ideologically, he's closer to Putin than he is to Biden, or Zelensky for that matter. He doesn't respond to appeals to "shared democratic values" or "human rights."
Yet this is exactly what Zelensky tried to pull in front of Trump. Zelensky is still acting like he's in Biden's house and that he's going to get a standing ovation for standing up to Putin and his "monstrous tyranny." He kept trying to do his "freedom and liberty" and "no compromise" act in front of Trump as though Trump gives a ****. Fact is, Trump doesn't - he likes Putin, and he respects Putin's style of leadership.
Zelensky's biggest failing as a leader is his inability to detect when the wind's changed, and to adapt accordingly. Weeks before the war, he was still of the mind that Putin was all bluff, and that he was going to get away with EU / NATO membership. We saw this same character flaw here. Even with every indication that Trump is not Biden, and that Trump's America is not Biden's America, he still came in thinking he'd play the same song and dance.
He was wrong. A smarter politician would've realized who Trump was and what Trump wanted, and knew that the odds were against him since Trump was incentivized to make a deal with Putin so that he can turn his attention on China, and adjusted accordingly. Instead, Zelensky stuck to his line about not compromising with Putin, and paid for it.