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North Korea’s Kim Jong Un vows to develop cooperation with China to ‘new high’​



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What do you guys think is in that envelope personally delivered to Kim? Looks like the Russians are curious too, could they be blueprints :p
Envelop will be appropriate dealing with Kim as i dont think he is getting that many anyway and usually some thing given in hand is easy to open and look at it. I cannot imagine Kim predecessors would have started digitalization of records but current Kim has not put computer on his desk which person of his age expected. I think Shoigu is glad that he has 3 days for himself. Russian delegation was mostly civilian and translators. you can see the empty chairs so much less people arrived.

 

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May be. People often forget it was west who coined the term. I personally always wondered why those who coined the term ,had South Africa or Brazil in mind as "emerging economies". I mean before of after coining of that term south africa ever barely anually clocked 5% GDP growth rate. Brazil probably had 2 or 3 good years?
Of course it's up to individuals how they interpret it.

One guy coined the term, that O'Neil person, who probably was a banker. It was only logical, because of all the emerging economies back then, it was these five that were the most prominent.

O'Neil later said he wasn't that serious about himself coining this term, it was just convenient so that he did not have to mention all five of them when he refers to them.

Those five countries are important. They did not need a single banker to tell them that.
 

ansy1968

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One guy coined the term, that O'Neil person, who probably was a banker. It was only logical, because of all the emerging economies back then, it was these five that were the most prominent.

O'Neil later said he wasn't that serious about himself coining this term, it was just convenient so that he did not have to mention all five of them when he refers to them.

Those five countries are important. They did not need a single banker to tell them that.
Rightly so bro and simply answer , strategically among the BRICS only two country matters and they're under attack from the Collective West, the reason they can independently stand up and fight, the rest are fence sitters cause they're not up to task.
 

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Unit 731 had some of the worst psychopaths - the worst even among psychopaths. Here is a description from the linked WaPo article about vivisection without anesthetic:
“I cut him open from the chest to the stomach, and he screamed terribly, and his face was all twisted in agony. He made this unimaginable sound, he was screaming so horribly. But then finally he stopped,” one unnamed member of the unit told the New York Times in 1995, recalling a victim who had been infected with the plague. “This was all in a day’s work for the surgeons, but it really left an impression on me because it was my first time.”
By sheltering such psychopaths and war criminals, the US demonstrated unequivocally that its researchers had little ethics and its officials had little morality.

Vinfast sold a solid 350 cars the past year.

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I'm afraid it's an investment scandal.

Spending $500 million to smear China will create a China bogey man.

South Korea is on track for its first annual trade deficit with China this year, marking a historic shift since the two countries formally established diplomatic ties 31 years ago.

Why South Korea needs China even as it teams up with US on chips and more​

  • The US’ ‘full-scale suppression’ of China seen to leave Seoul and Tokyo with no leeway to balance ties with the two rival powers
  • The ‘China threat theory’ presents a dilemma for South Korea, as the ‘China market is so critical’ to its economy, observers say
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MixedReality

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Therefore Sino-Russo synergy is the key, they're both the Anchor of BRICS, like I say the rest are an outlier.

Rightly so bro and simply answer , strategically among the BRICS only two country matters and they're under attack from the Collective West, the reason they can independently stand up and fight, the rest are fence sitters cause they're not up to task.

Spot on. BRICS/SCO is all about the power of China and Russia. Rest are just add-ons. Remove Russia and China from BRICS/SCO and the organisation is irrelevant.

China and Russia together provide the economic, financial, technological, military, diplomatic, natural resources, geopolitical power. China’s greatest ally is Russia. Russia’s greatest ally is China.

As for creating a trading currency, China and Russia should create one together first and other countries can join it whenever they are ready.

India, Brazil, South Africa are easily manipulated by the West. They will be obstacles to creating anything that curtails the power of the West.

Outside China and Russia, I would only trust Iran.
 

Africablack

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Actually it is. India like to have to say on things where their opinion don't natter much because they don't contribute much.

Like what influence India has in BRICS? It's just a coin term,not an organization. Even if it was, I don't see how India even remotely outweigh the strategic influence of countries on whom much of global energy trade depends, as does USD.

That is an ideal scenario for an ideal world. I agree. But it is not an ideal world we live in. Without countries with leverage, BRICS would look like a multi cultural boy band. Besides India's reasoning of "aspirational democracy" entry doesn't flow my boat much.

You don't have a choice. You are talking about economic market the size of 1/3 of global population, with youngest group amongst all ages, having geographical reach from east-south east-south asia all the way up to horn of africa.

What you said is very true, we can't have a single country/region having disproportionate influence in a forum of developing countries. They need to come up with some sort off counter mechanism for it.
But if i were to join a group, i would ponder the benefits of becoming part of it. Having world's most influential oil producing nation in that group makes it much more lucrative to me than without it. This aint emotional decision to offense anyone. This is pure & simple Geo-political calculation.
I'm scared of the next generation of leaders, if they are as hasty and antagonistic as some of the posts I read then China's development will stall. You can't dismiss India so easily, it's not about liking them or not, it's about not rocking the boat too much. My suggestion was simple: expand BRICS in a way that will suit everyone.
Spot on. BRICS/SCO is all about the power of China and Russia. Rest are just add-ons. Remove Russia and China from BRICS/SCO and the organisation is irrelevant.

China and Russia together provide the economic, financial, technological, military, diplomatic, natural resources, geopolitical power. China’s greatest ally is Russia. Russia’s greatest ally is China.

As for creating a trading currency, China and Russia should create one together first and other countries can join it whenever they are ready.

India, Brazil, South Africa are easily manipulated by the West. They will be obstacles to creating anything that curtails the power of the West.

Outside China and Russia, I would only trust Iran.
It's arrogance like this that will cause others to turn against you. Be careful.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I'm scared of the next generation of leaders, if they are as hasty and antagonistic as some of the posts I read then China's development will stall. You can't dismiss India so easily, it's not about liking them or not, it's about not rocking the boat too much. My suggestion was simple: expand BRICS in a way that will suit everyone.

It's arrogance like this that will cause others to turn against you. Be careful.
Worrying about irrelevant things is the mark of a poor leader. A good leader doesn't consider everything, just the important things, and knows what the important things are.
 
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