F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

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what's really funny I recently (this month) saw (in discussions under articles) both F-35 extollers AND bashers saying like
now F-35 speaks for itself
both groups appear to agree on this LOL
Well We have hit the point where it should be clear that F35 is not getting canceled, I mean it's 2018 although there are issues consistently They have been cured solved debunked or road mapped to a fix. Exports have started, and The Critics have ground there arguments down to the point where all they can do is claim there fail.
For the proponents the program has progressed from Vaporware to deployments and it's at the edge of full operations so to them There it is Success.

Pick your side.
 
Well We have hit the point where it should be clear that F35 is not getting canceled, ...
of course not, it's all about Lockheed Martin (
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) stocks which are going to be the indicator (depending on what comes out of many things like the independent testing before a block buy; Italy coalition Mar 7, 2018
F-35 in peril as Italy’s Five Star political party nears power
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it's mostly Politics inside, so just the link, due to the significance of Italy for F-35 Project
; Turkey situation Yesterday at 8:26 PM
... so Should U.S. Block F-35 Deliveries To Turkey?
May 15, 2018
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and so on and so forth)
 
as I've said before, I generally don't post about stuff below 100m; this is going to be one of exceptions: ...
... sounds like a good price to me:
Earlier in the year Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) announced that it had been awarded a large $57m contract from the US Department of Defense (DoD) to provide supercomputers.
...
This latest HPCMP contract includes the build and delivery of a total of seven HPE SGI 8600 systems: ...

The combined peak computational capacity of the seven machines is some 14.1 petaflops ...
assuming I correctly understood
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oops, thought it's
US Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
thread; I'll leave it here though because I'm leaving to take a bath right now LOL
 
at first I noticed after lunch at a major Czech news server (LOL if you didn't believe, it's:
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The F-35 just made its combat debut
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Lockheed Martin’s F-35 has seen combat for the first time.

The Israel Defense Forces announced on its Twitter account that the I
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, using its “Adir” moniker was used in operational missions.

“The Adir planes are already operational and flying in operational missions,” the tweet said, quoting Israel Air Force head Maj. Gen. Amikam Norkin. “We are the first in the world to use the F-35 in operational activity.”

The Israeli Air Force used the F-35 in two recent strikes in Syria, Norkin said,
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The use of the F-35 in combat is a major milestone for the aircraft that has been in development since the early 1990s. The program has been marred not only by cost overruns and delays but persistent attacks by critics who have called into question the jet’s warfighting capabilities.

The combat debut could also bode well for future buys of the joint strike fighter. Israel has already put 50 F-35 Adir aircraft on contract. However, last year its parliament urged its defense ministry to conduct an analysis of alternatives before going forward with more orders, which could add another 25 to 50 jets to the IAF.

Israel’s announcement follows another
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when the U.S. Marine Corps deployed its vertical take-off and landing version, the F-35B, to Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni in Japan, the first permanent overseas deployment of the aircraft for the U.S. Military.

Israel’s decision to employ its Adir, or “Mighty One” in Syria may stem from February’s downing of an IAF F-16, which prompted some experts to question why the IAF was not using the stealthy jet against capable Syrian air defenses.

The U.S. Air Force plans to follow suit. The F-35A is slated to deploy to Europe as early as 2020. Those aircraft are destined for Royal Air Force Base Lakenheath in England.
 
according to Stars and Stripes, dated May 22, 2018, Navy’s top-dollar stealth fighter may not go the distance
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The Navy’s newest fighter jet, the stealthy F-35C, may not have the range it needs to strike enemy targets, the House Armed Services Committee said in a new report, raising troubling questions about whether the multibillion-dollar program is already outpaced by threats.

And critics say the Navy fighter — part of the Joint Strike Fighter initiative, the most expensive weapons program in history — may actually have been out of date years ago.

The committee’s conclusion, buried in the 606-page report on the fiscal 2019 defense authorization bill, is confirmation from lawmakers who support the jet program that the aircraft carrier-based version of the F-35 may not have enough effective range without refueling to function well in likely future wars.

“While the introduction of the F-35C will significantly expand stealth capabilities, the F-35C could require increased range to address necessary targets,” the report states.

The reason, experts say, is that the aircraft carriers from which the F-35Cs would operate may be required to sail too far away from enemies to avoid their increasingly long-range missiles.

The committee does not want to stop buying F-35Cs, but instead wants to start also buying new sorts of warplanes.

“After billions of dollars have been spent on the F-35C, but before the first aircraft are ready to deploy, lawmakers are already looking at the next carrier-based aircraft,” said Bryan Clark, a former Navy strategist now at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.

Dan Grazier, of the Project on Government Oversight, said the House directive “highlights just how poorly conceived the Joint Strike Fighter program has been from the very beginning.”

“The issue of anti-ship cruise missiles is not a new one,” he said. “The complexity of the F-35 program has dragged out the design process to nearly 20 years, which means we are not keeping pace with emerging threats.”

The F-35 program is developing and purchasing 2,456 jets in three different variants — the F-35C for the Navy, the F-35A for the Air Force and the F-35B for the Marine Corps — with allies expected to purchase hundreds more. The Navy will buy 273 F-35Cs for its carriers and another 67 for the Marine Corps, on top of the Marine Corps’ own model, which takes off and lands vertically.

The cost to develop and build all three models is projected to reach $406.1 billion, with another estimated $1.1 trillion to operate them.

If the Navy has to sail its carriers in the neighborhood of 1,000 nautical miles away from increasingly long-range missiles, then its stealthy F-35Cs will have to be refueled by tanker aircraft that are not stealthy.

The F-35Cs have an effective range — known as a combat radius (or the distance from the carrier they can operate) — that is now projected as 670 nautical miles.

The refueling operations would expose the fighter jets and tankers to adversaries, defeating the value of the F-35C’s radar-evading materials and sleek silhouette. Lt. Lauren Chatmas, a Navy spokeswoman, said the risk is “acceptable” because the refueling will occur far from enemy threats. But Clark maintains enemy fighters might still find U.S. aircraft even hundreds of miles out if any are not stealthy.

Alternatively, the Navy could operate its carriers — which have self-defense capabilities — closer to enemy territory or nearer to enemy warships and aircraft. But that would raise the risk to these floating cities, each of which typically carries more than 6,000 sailors and costs roughly $13 billion.

The Navy has already bought 28 of the jets and requested nine more for fiscal 2019. It won’t deploy F-35Cs on a carrier until 2021.

But the likely inadequacy of the F-35C’s combat radius should not surprise the Navy, experts say.

Approximately a decade ago, China finished developing its “carrier killer,” the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile, with a reported range of 780 nautical miles, though the People’s Liberation Army is reportedly still perfecting the system for giving the missile targeting information.

The U.S. Tomahawk cruise missile has a range in excess of 1,000 nautical miles, and the Navy expects to field an anti-ship variant in four years. Given Chinese and Russian advances, and the fact that F-35s will fly for 60 years, the realistic prospect of adversaries’ having the ability to hold carriers at risk from 1,000 nautical miles or more during the F-35’s lifespan was foreseeable, critics say.

Already, China’s CSS-5 anti-ship cruise missile can strike ships about 930 miles away, the Defense Intelligence Agency has testified.

And Russia has apparently deployed the air-launched Kinzhal hypersonic missile, which can reportedly travel distances of more than 1,000 nautical miles.

The House Armed Services Committee has been unstinting in funding the F-35, despite software snafus, oxygen shortages in the cockpits and ejection seats that can endanger pilots.

The House will vote this week to approve a defense bill that authorizes purchase of 77 more F-35s across the services.

The fact that the F-35C’s limited radius may reduce its operational utility has received little public attention.

Radius is less of an issue for the Air Force because the service has long-range bombers and can reserve F-35As for shorter-range missions, Clark said. For the Marine Corps, the F-35B is a significant upgrade over the AV-8B Harriers now in the fleet.

The committee’s report directs the Navy secretary to brief the Armed Services panels by January 2019 on options, including manned and unmanned aircraft that would “expand the strike range of a carrier air wing in a contested environment.” That could include “developing a stealth tanker capability, improved engine technology or to develop and procure a strike capability that is purposely built to strike at increased range.”

To some critics, the F-35C report language is a play by lawmakers to justify development of a new drone that might be built by many of the same contractors as the F-35. The F-35 program has contractors in almost every state and is ultimately assembled at Lockheed Martin’s facility in Fort Worth, Texas, in the district of Republican Rep. Kay Granger, who chairs the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.

“A new program would benefit pretty much the same members now unless a new prime contractor emerges,” Grazier of the Project on Government Oversight said.

In fairness to the Navy, the service did envision the need for a longer-range fighter jet. But the effort collapsed.

In the 1980s, the Navy developed the A-12 Avenger II with a projected radius of about 800 nautical miles. The Pentagon killed that program in 1991 amid spiraling costs. Even that range might not have proved sufficient.
 
Tuesday at 8:08 PM
at first I noticed after lunch at a major Czech news server (LOL if you didn't believe, it's:
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The F-35 just made its combat debut
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Israel just showed that the F-35 can fight. So what’s next?
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Israel’s first-ever use of the F-35 during airstrikes over the Middle East may help the jet fight off
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But don’t expect immediate changes to manufacturer Lockheed Martin’s bottom line or for other F-35 users to rush the plane into warzones, experts told Defense News.

Israel Air Force head Maj. Gen. Amikam Norkin announced on Tuesday during an IAF conference that the aircraft had already participated in two airstrikes over the Middle East, making Israel the first country to operate an F-35 in combat.

“The Adir planes are already operational and flying in operational missions. We are the first in the world to use the F-35 in operational activity,” he said, according to a tweet by the Israel Defense Forces’ official Twitter account. Adir is the IAF’s designation for its F-35s and means “Mighty One.”

Norkin also showed a photo of the aircraft flying over Beirut, Lebanon, reported
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Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace analyst with the Teal Group, called the IAF’s use of the F-35 in combat “the best endorsement the F-35 can get” and said it would be particularly useful going forward in Syria.

“The Syria conflict calls for careful targeting and maximum survivability, the F-35’s two strongest attributes. It has its limits, but in this contingency it should excel,” he said. “It certainly provides other users and potential customers with a high level of confidence that the aircraft and its systems work in real world conditions.”

Israel has a long history of sending its aircraft into combat soon after it becomes operational. Legendary IAF pilot Moshe Marom-Melnik became the first person to shoot down an enemy aircraft with the F-15 in 1979,
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. Meanwhile, it took until Operation Desert Storm in 1991 for the U.S. Air Force to do the same.

When Israel has a new platform, it uses it as rapidly as possible so pilots can increase their skills, said Abraham Assael, a retired IAF brigadier general and CEO of the Fisher Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies.

“It’s a great platform with a lot of capabilities. So we try to get the maximum of it. And I feel they are doing the upmost to do it well and professionally, because it’s a process to learn the machine and induct it within the air force. It’s not an easy task,” he said.

Aboulafia said the F-35’s real-world experience could have an impact for Lockheed Martin in markets like Canada, Japan or the United Kingdom, which are publicly or reportedly considering alternatives to the F-35.

However, Assael said he didn’t know whether the milestone would have much of an affect on F-35 sales to Israel. The country is still deciding whether to expand its F-35 order beyond the 50 jets under contract or to buy more F-15s.

“There is a discussion nowadays within the air force and within the IDF [on] where is the best investment,” he said. “And I don’t know. I really don’t know.”

What the event means for U.S. use of the jet in the Middle East is also hard to say. One Marine Corps’ F-35B squadron, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121 arrives at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan, has found a permanent home at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni in Japan. The Air Force has
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However, service leaders have not detailed immediate plans to send the F-35 to the Middle East. Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle, a former head of Air Combat Command,
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that he believed such an event could take place in the “not too distant future,” but current Air Force leadership have not raised the issue publicly.

Just because the IAF have now proven that the joint strike fighter can be used successfully in the region doesn’t mean the U.S. military will be rushing to deploy the F-35 to Central Command, said David Deptula, a former Air Force lieutenant general and currently the dean of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.

“Each of the countries that possess operational F-35s will use them to further their individual national security needs — those most likely will be different and will not necessarily affect one another,” he told Defense News. “That said, the first combat use of the F-35 confirms its operational utility and insights will be gained as a result.”
 
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Kwast Wants Training F-22s, F-35s Brought Up to Combat Configuration
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The Air Force’s training chief wants F-22 and F-35 basic instruction aircraft modified to full combat capability, but he is also exploring ways to provide all-up training if that proves unaffordable.

Lt. Gen. Steven Kwast, head of Air Education and Training Command, said teaching flying with out-of-date jets poses a danger of “negative learning” or the need for expensive further training when junior F-22 and F-35 pilots reach frontline units. But he recognizes, “it all comes down to money,” as to whether USAF can afford the modifications.

“What I want is, I want my cake and [to] eat it, too. I’d like all our aircraft concurrent,” so that when there’s a software update to the F-35 and F-22 fleets, even the training aircraft get it so “we have congruency” among the platforms. “I don’t want to live with … an architecture where the fighter has a different [software] load than the trainer. That’s unacceptable to me. So I do not want to take pressure off that,” he said.

However, “in the short run,” given the demands to fix readiness issues and aircraft age across the force, as well as “the hole we’re in with sequestration,” Kwast realizes, “we can’t do everything.” As a stopgap, he said USAF is looking into virtual technologies that can teach stealth pilots the capabilities in the latest versions of their jets while they get the necessary “visceral” experience—the environment around the jet, the cockpit, takeoffs and landings, etc.—in the real thing.

An Air Force lab in Austin, Texas, is finding out that the brain is “phenomenal at ‘blending’” the visceral experiences with the more “cognitive” aspects of employing the aircraft, Kwast said. The visceral tasks can be learned easily and quickly, but the cognitive elements take “a lot of repetitions,” and a virtual reality approach will help drive down costs of teaching them, he explained.

VR approaches can also offer a training space where pilots “can properly train the habits of mind of the frontline aircraft where there are no limits to range space, … weather, … adversaries, … or threat emitters that may or may not be accurate waveforms.” They can “practice the habits of decision-making.”

These applications should be available soon, Kwast said, but he’s not giving up on getting the training jets compatible with frontline aircraft.

“We’re building this model so you have the speed and agility … to have access to this training on-command, on-demand, on any device, anywhere in the world,” Kwast added. “Now, there are security issues, but those security issues are relatively easy to solve.” He plans on “flooding the market” with such devices so pilots of any jet can reap the same benefits, such as being able to train when the weather doesn’t cooperate.

“We are … already migrating” the VR technology “to some pilot training bases as a testbed,” Kwast noted. He’s hoping the technology will “spread like wildfire.”
 
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