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Wednesday at 9:09 PM
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No plans for F-35 to fly at Paris Air Show
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Paris Air Show organizers invited US F-35s to conduct flight demos
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While the F-35 won’t be making an appearance at the Paris Air Show this year, the French aerospace organization planning the event did extend an invitation to the US government in the hopes of getting the joint strike fighter to fly.

In a letter dated Sept. 16, 2016, SIAE — the organization that puts together the Paris Air Show — made a formal request for the United States to conduct a flying demonstration of the F-35 and V-22 during the event this June. Defense News obtained a copy of the invitation, which was sent to Jane Hartley, the former U.S. ambassador to France.

The letter casts doubt on early reports, including one by Defense News, that suggested that the French government was not interested in hosting an F-35 demonstration. Those reports were based on statements by the F-35 joint program executive office, claiming no knowledge of an invitation. Instead, SIAE spends the majority of the letter highlighting reasons for the U.S. government to send the plane.

“Five European countries are committed to the F-35 (Denmark, Italy, Netherlands, Norway and the U.K.,” it states. “Turkey is also a partner, and there are a number of countries from around the world that are also purchasing or considering the F-35. All of them send very high level delegations to Paris.”

The invite also points out that the flying at the air show would be “good publicity, both internationally and within the U.S., where the public reads about the F-35 but may not be aware of how important it is internationally.”

Apart the invitation, the SIAE held three meetings with U.S. government representatives at the U.S. embassy in Paris, and even traveled to the United States twice to discuss the prospect of a flying display, said Christophe Robin, the communications director for GIFAS, the French aerospace industry association and parent organization of SIAE.

“The Aerospace Industries Association, our counterpart in the USA, is very supportive to the idea and is still doing its best to make the F-35 at the Paris Air Show, a reality,” he said in an email.

The Paris Air Show, held at Le Bourget Airport, is the world's largest event of its kind, held on alternating years with Farnborough International Airshow in England. The F-35B made its debut at Farnborough last year, and both the B and A model flew at the Royal International Air Tattoo in the country days before that.

On Wednesday, a spokesman from the F-35 joint program executive office acknowledged that the joint strike fighter would not likely participate in the Paris Air Show this year, telling Defense News he was not aware that an invitation had ever been extended. On Thursday, he maintained that the JPO had no knowledge of the invite.

It's possible that a decision to eschew the show was made at a higher level than the JPO, although it was not immediately clear which governmental agency had made that call or when.

A spokesman from AIA has no comment on whether the organization was currently working with GIFAS to bring the F-35 to Paris.
 

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Wednesday at 9:09 PM
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Paris Air Show organizers invited US F-35s to conduct flight demos
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Thank you Jura for researching and bringing the clarification, to date the F-35A has not conducted the typical "flight demo" for a US show, so not sure why not, but it would be a pleasure to see the A model's debut at this summer's Paris Air Show. I'm excited to see someone actually "Beat On" and A model, I can't wait to see the A doing "Fighter Tango"!
 
Thank you Jura for researching and bringing the clarification, to date the F-35A has not conducted the typical "flight demo" for a US show, so not sure why not, but it would be a pleasure to see the A model's debut at this summer's Paris Air Show. I'm excited to see someone actually "Beat On" and A model, I can't wait to see the A doing "Fighter Tango"!
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And the F 35 did flight demo in Australia at Avalon
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yeah Mar 8, 2017
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could be a flyover is called a flypast in Australia? LOL
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aircraft will be back in the air after 1:00pm tomorrow (Saturday, 4 March) for a flypast at
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Those are actually there to give you a radar signature so that civilian/military air-traffic control can see you... since you are generating a radar return, they have the side benefit of masking how stealthy you actually are. So the primary stated purpose is to generate a signature for controllers/other traffic..

I believe Hawk Carlisle stated that the F-35 was stealthier than the F-22,,, for some reason that's never been stated before or since by anyone else, though I do not for a moment doubt its stealthy?? I'd say the Raptor still holds an edge in "all aspect" stealth or L/O.
 

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While an F-22 could do that no sweat, you'll never see the F-22 nor the F-35 perform that maneuver as it does result in the "departure" or stall of the main wing of the aircraft, and does entail a great deal of risk, to the aircraft, crew, but of more import, people, buildings etc on the ground...

while the F-35 has been flown to 105 degrees angle of attack, exactly what is depicted her, it will NOT do this as a matter of air-ops, not now, not ever, the "cobra" is a totally tactically useless maneuver, that no combat pilot would ever actually employ.

The F-35 flying display at RIAT in 2016 was pretty lame???
 

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Those are actually there to give you a radar signature so that civilian/military air-traffic control can see you... since you are generating a radar return, they have the side benefit of masking how stealthy you actually are. So the primary stated purpose is to generate a signature for controllers/other traffic..

I believe Hawk Carlisle stated that the F-35 was stealthier than the F-22,,, for some reason that's never been stated before or since by anyone else, though I do not for a moment doubt its stealthy?? I'd say the Raptor still holds an edge in "all aspect" stealth or L/O.
More than doubtfull on any side F-22 get better but F-35 is very decent better than others but much less good with her enormous engines for IR stealth in more F-22 have for shape excellent nozzles for a IR signature more " channeled "
I have see serie F-35 less good than demonstrators for RCS with changes especialy on the side, initialy F-35 should be closer than the F-22 a bit.
 
While an F-22 could do that no sweat, you'll never see the F-22 nor the F-35 perform that maneuver as it does result in the "departure" or stall of the main wing of the aircraft, and does entail a great deal of risk, to the aircraft, crew, but of more import, people, buildings etc on the ground...

while the F-35 has been flown to 105 degrees angle of attack, exactly what is depicted her, it will NOT do this as a matter of air-ops, not now, not ever, the "cobra" is a totally tactically useless maneuver, that no combat pilot would ever actually employ.
basically that's what I used to say in the pub when a half-Russian guy there was bragging (LOL) but now I wonder if an F-35 would outmaneuver a Mig-21 ... well I've heard about the tactics to launch an AMRAAM while BVR etc. etc. but that would mean War, while all around the world there could be (and will be, I'm afraid) situations when an Opfor would for example provoke, threaten air-traffic, violate the airspace of an ally ... and then the aircraft of that Opfor (which might be 'Third World') would need to be chased away, not shot at immediately once a firing solution is acquired ... could F-35s do it?

The F-35 flying display at RIAT in 2016 was pretty lame???
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