CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[bd popeye]

plawolf.. I agree with you..I just want to see it...well just a little tweak on your post..

As for jet engine shop, well as I and others have said before, it should be perfectly feasible to use the elevators for engine tests.

Perhaps.. but running up an engine takes time and doing this on an aircraft elevator would possibly interfere with any aircraft movement(re-spot)

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Everytime I see those J-15s I think the same thing I thought when I saw Tomcats up close and personal for the first time in 1981 aboard America..."man those are some big airplanes".

Being fully fuelled, and possibly also carrying drop tanks, that tanker config J15 will need the longer run up from the second launch poition, so it will only be a very short taxi distances for it to be in the launch position ready to go.

And those big airplanes need a lot of fuel. I have to wonder will or does the PLAN use PLAAF tankers? They could you know. I know over Afghanistan and Iraq the USN used USAF tanker for long legged flights.

 

[bd popeye]

I have question to popeye or any other old hand Is this picture below with red and black ribbon square Ordnance elevator or Fueling station
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I think it's an weapons elevator judging by its position. This is just a guess on my part.

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ARABIAN GULF (Dec. 5, 2014) Chief Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Fuels) Derrick Moore, center, and Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Fuels) 2nd Class Leonardo Barberan, right, pull back a hose reel while Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Fuel) 3rd Class Lee Albert repairs a swing joint on a fueling station aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70).(U.S. Navy photo by Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Fuel) 2nd Class Amber Jenkins/Released)

On USN CVNs ^^^ fueling stations are on huge hose reels on the gallery deck around the flight deck.

 

[bd popeye]

I don't think the PLAN need to follow US Navy practice as their radius of operation is limited to Western Pacific

Instead of full jet engine maintenance why just not carry spare? And only do light maintenance and reserve the heavy maintenance when they arrive at home port

The same approach with your car do it at home for light maintenance and go to shop for heavy maintenance.
with 13 J 15 on deck they have plenty of room to do the light maintenance at their storage below the deck

So true on the "light" maintenance.

Aboard USN carriers the Aircraft Intermediate Maintenance Department does the in depth repairs on aircraft components. I would assume the PLAN air wing has similar departments.

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However.. the USN carriers numerous spare engines parts etc..etc for all types aircraft aboard.. and guess what? The USN runs a full test on those engines before they are installed in any aircraft. They just do. Other militarizes can run the show how it fits their needs.

 

[SanWenYu]

I know over Afghanistan and Iraq the USN used USAF tanker for long legged flights.

Don't the USN and the USAF use different kinds of inflight refueling systems? Like the Navy's has flexible hose while the other is rigid? So they are actual compatible and the pilots are trained for both?

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Thanks Popeye
Well well we finally hear from Kyle Mizokami who has to swallow his own word. This is not the first time Liaoning venture far from her home port . She did it in 2013

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China's First Aircraft Carrier Goes Out to Sea
The carrier, Liaoning, has rarely strayed from coastal waters.

China's first aircraft carrier conducted its

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, traveling from northern China to southern China and transiting several hotspots along the way. The eight ship carrier battle group is the most powerful Chinese naval task force in six hundred years.

China's first and only aircraft carrier, Liaoning, left its home port at Qingdao in northern China and took a politically charged route through Japan's Ryukyu island chain and the East China Sea. From there it passed through the South China Sea, nearing Taiwan and the Philippines, and finally ended up at Sanya Naval Base on Hainan Island.

Chinese Navy aircraft carrier Liaoning as it passed through the Miyako Strait. Japan Self Defense Force photo.

Primarily a training carrier meant to train China's future naval aviators, Liaoning has rarely left the coastline of northern China. The carrier mainly conducts operations in the Yellow Sea between China and the Korean peninsula. Not only was this Liaoning's longest voyage, it was also spotted with thirteen

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fighters on the flight deck—the most ever.

Accompanying the carrier was a full complement of surface escorts including two

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and one

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destroyers. The Type 052 class is an anti-air warfare destroyer similar to the U.S. Navy

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-class destroyers. Also accompanying the carrier were 2

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frigates, 1

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anti-submarine warfare corvette, and one

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supply ship. This gives Liaoning a well-rounded protective screen of China's most modern anti-air and anti-submarine escorts.

 

[Iron Man]

Excellent collection of photos Higgle. Excellent.

I did notice something gents. Only in the second photo of the posted album do I see a J-15 armed with any missiles or bombs.

One thing I'd like to see some photos of armed aircraft launching from CV-16.

I also wonder how many of those aircraft will suffer any engine problems that cannot be repaired aboard CV-16 because they do not have a jet shop. Hi-performance military aircraft do breakdown. Trust me on that...I'd love to check ot the PLAN aircraft maintenance procedures.

Liaoning may possibly have a jet shop on the aft starboard side.

 

[Intrepid]

Don't the USN and the USAF use different kinds of inflight refueling systems?

They use a kind of adapter:

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Not only to refuel US-Navy-, but also allied aircraft.

 

[Jeff Head]

Yes we have Jeff. But what we've is just the basics..

I want to see this type of maintenance;

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And when you see the PLAN doing this type of maintenance you will know with 100% certainty that CV-16 is ready for an extended deployment.

Agreed 100%. I am not sure the Varyag which they turned into the Liaoning, even had the facilities to do that. We shall see if they built it into the new carrier...and especially into the CATOBAR carrier they are said to be building next.

 

[Iron Man]

I have question to popeye or any other old hand Is this picture below with red and black ribbon square Ordnance elevator or Fueling station
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This is definitely a weapons elevator.

 

[bd popeye]

Liaoning may possibly have a jet shop on the aft starboard side.

Ok as I look at the fantail of CV-16 I see no indication of any sort of Jet shop. Where is it if it does exist? Thank you.

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