Chinese shipbuilding industry

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    It will be equipped with two AW169 helicopters
     
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    CHINARE is name use by Chinese Arctic and Antarctic Administration. abbreviated from both : China National Arctic Research Expedition
    or China National Antarctic Research Expedition
     
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    Get ready for a mega order.

    COSCO planning to order as much as 25 capesize ore haulers to transfer bauxite from Guinea. Capesize ore hauler means ships above 150,000 or 200,000 DWT (Dead Weight Tons), and goes as far as 400,000 DWT. Capesize means vessels that are too big to pass through the Panama Canal and must pass through the Cape of Good Hope to transit from the Atlantic to the Pacific and vice versa.


    https://aluminiuminsider.com/cosco-...re-carriers-to-transport-bauxite-from-guinea/

    Capesize ships

    http://maritime-connector.com/wiki/capesize/

    Ore hauler

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    Not an issue really.. you don't really need to pass through Panama or even Suez for that matter to go from Guinea to China. I don;t think the net gain in terms of distance is that significant.
     
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    I don't really think its just Guinea. China ships tons of ore from Brazil and the rest of the South Americas. In fact, much of the Capesize and Valesize ore haulers in the world are servicing the South America - China route. You have to be flexible to deploy these ships to the South American routes too. Whether or not, and no doubt they don't pass through the Panama Canal for this route, large ore haulers are also servicing the Australia route.
     
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    I happen to read this http://stock.jrj.com.cn/share,disc,2018-06-13,600482,0000000000000l9eo5.shtml. It is an announcement of 中国船舶重工集团动力股份有限公司 (CSIC powerplant) about changes of investment capital raising.
    Combined prototyping production capacity (1200 MW per year) of Advanced asynchronous (induction) electrical motor of 20MW (and below) class and 5MW permeant magnet motor changed to 600MW per year of 40MW class maritime electrical motor (and other types 等).

    I wonder if this change mean that 20MW AIM and 5MW PMM motor have moved from prototyping to serial production? So the program moves to the next level of 40MW motor? If the answer is yes, it would seem that the next batch (in a year?) of Type 055 could be IEP driven.
     
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    Sun Bo expelled from the Party and could face the death penalty. He was the core manager for the Liaoning rebuild, given the roles and ships CSIC builds including nuclear submarines and the latest destroyers. This can be a serious breech of national security.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...y-await-chinese-aircraft-carrier-builder-boss


    Death penalty may await Sun Bo, boss of Chinese aircraft carrier firm CSIC, for alleged spying role

    • Details are unclear but signs point to deep trouble for Sun Bo over espionage claims
    • Beijing may want to use case as a warning to others, source says
     
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    I haven't seen any strong indicators that he was directly overseeing the Liaoning refit and rebuild process; and the case that the article makes for it seems rather flimsy.

    It basically comes down to this part, which seems weak to me:

    Instead, I'd argue that the wording of the accusations against him definitely suggest military related espionage, and given his place in CSIC he would certainly be in a position to know certain details about various naval projects.
    But otherwise we are relying on Minnie Chan's ability to identify legitimate sources who are claiming that this is related to Liaoning... and her track record makes me a little bit wary.
     
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    Via Beijingwalker. Having viable shipping industry is the prerequisite of great naval power In a way it subsidized the R&D with the proceed from building civilian ships
    China still leading in global shipbuilding industry
    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-01/26/c_137777148.htm

    Source: Xinhua| 2019-01-26 22:06:41
    BEIJING, Jan. 26 (Xinhua) -- China maintained its top position in the global shipbuilding industry last year, an association said.

    In 2018, Chinese companies built 43.2 percent of the new ships in the world, up from 41.9 percent a year ago, cementing the country's leading role in the sector, the China Association of the National Shipbuilding Industry said in a report.

    China received 43.9 percent of global new orders last year and held 42.8 percent of the existing orders.

    From the 1950s to the beginning of the 21st century, the three indices were topped by Japan or the Republic of Korea. In 2010, China exceeded the ROK and ranked the first in the world.

    Given a lackluster global economy, however, the shipbuilding industry still faces grim circumstances, such as fierce competition and dropping profits, and Chinese companies are no exception.

    The association warned of the lingering challenges and said more efforts are needed to improve competitiveness and profitability.

    Chinese shipbuilders should seize the opportunity from further opening-up of the industry and ramp up research and development investment to achieve technological breakthroughs and channel more energy into developing liquefied natural gas carriers, the association suggested.
     
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    I would not be surprised if they wasted a lot of money getting the Liaoning up in shape more quickly. This happens often in megaprojects where time is the major concern.
    However to consider that "corruption" is likely excessive. I also find the claim that he's spilling "secrets" kind of hard to swallow. It is not like the Chinese carrier program is the most advanced in the world. Heck, even Spain can build a STOBAR carrier. So which "secrets" did he spill?
    It sounds like he just hanged out with the wrong clique, or is suspected of it, like the article suggests. But I would put little faith in whatever the South China Morning Post writes about the subject. Especially considering that Dalian is not exactly close to Hong Kong.
     
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