Chinese shipbuilding industry

Hendrik_2000

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First large 4000Ton ship with IEPS about the same tonnage as future type 54B
The marine resources survey ship will be 98 meters long and 17 m wide and will have a displacement of 4,000 tons. It will be driven by an advanced electric propulsion system.
From defense to civil, biz sectors
By Zhao Lei | China Daily | Updated: 2017-07-17 07:51
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China State Shipbuilding Corp recently launched the nation's largest and mightiest destroyer, the first in the Type 055 class, at its Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai. This type of ship is a new 10,000-ton destroyer that has been independently developed by China. [Photo/Xinhua]

State-owned China State Shipbuilding Corp is going beyond building navy vessels and making advanced scientific research ships. For long, it was the largest supplier of surface combatants to the Chinese Navy.

All of the Navy's Type 052D class guided-missile destroyers and Type 054A guided-missile frigates, the most powerful of their kind, were manufactured by the Beijing-headquartered CSSC. In late June, it launched the nation's largest and mightiest destroyer, the first in the Type 055 class, at its Jiangnan Shipyard in Shanghai.

Encouraged by government measures to boost transfer of defense-related technologies to civilian and business sectors, CSSC has been using its expertise in the research and development of naval hardware to construct high-tech civilian ships, said company officials.


The company is currently making a polar research icebreaker-the first to be built from the keel up by China-at the Jiangnan Shipyard, and the country's first marine resources survey ship at the Huangpu Wenchong Shipbuilding Co in Guangzhou, Guangdong province.

Both ships will have the top technological and operational capacity of their kind in the world. They are scheduled to be completed and commissioned by the State Oceanic Administration in 2019, the company said.

The polar research icebreaker will be about 123 meters long and 22 m wide, with a displacement of nearly 14,000 metric tons. Carrying up to 90 crew members and researchers, it is designed to be able to travel 20,000 nautical miles or 37,000 kilometers on each journey, according to CSSC.

It is expected to team up with research icebreaker Xuelong, now China's only icebreaker used for polar expeditions.

"The new ship will improve the nation's capabilities in supporting polar expeditions and surveying the polar marine environment," said Yang Huigen, head of the Polar Research Institute of China.

The marine resources survey ship will be 98 meters long and 17 m wide and will have a displacement of 4,000 tons. It will be driven by an advanced electric propulsion system.


The new vessel is expected to carry more than 70 kinds of scientific research equipment, and is capable of conducting high-accuracy, long-term survey in a wide range of fields such as marine geology, marine ecology and ocean-atmosphere system.

The ship will be able to travel at least 6,000 nautical miles or 11,110 kilometers in a single journey, according to CSSC.

Over the past year, CSSC has delivered the nation's most advanced space-tracking ship, the 30,000-ton Yuanwang-7, and the world's largest maritime surveillance ship, the 10,000-ton Coast Guard 3901.
 

nicky

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"Google Earth images and Chinese-language sources show that it would be extremely difficult for Huludao’s new facility to build the next generation of Chinese nuclear submarines.
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strange claim!
as if the author never knew that the "old" facility was built exactly on the same foundation and proved to be successful.
as for launching procedures: the author probably know nothing about it.
weired.
 

weig2000

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China is moving into cruise liner, after cargo ships, LNG ships and marine engineering ships...

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Some European shipbuilders fear China could come to dominate the cruise ship market, much as it has done in cargo ships over recent decades
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July 25, 2017 7:54 AM (UTC+8)

European shipbuilders’ dominance in the US$117 billion passenger ship industry may come under threat as Chinese rivals move into the sector to tap booming local demand for cruise holidays.

China’s government has earmarked cruise shipbuilding as a major objective in its “Made in China 2025” programme to upgrade its domestic manufacturing and support jobs at its shipyards, as domestic demand for cruise trips increases 30% a year.

European shipbuilders’ dominance in the US$117 billion passenger ship industry may come under threat as Chinese rivals move into the sector to tap booming local demand for cruise holidays.

China’s government has earmarked cruise shipbuilding as a major objective in its “Made in China 2025” programme to upgrade its domestic manufacturing and support jobs at its shipyards, as domestic demand for cruise trips increases 30% a year.

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Labourers work at Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding Co., Ltd. in Shanghai, China June 15, 2017. Photo:Reuters/Aly Song
This push into the higher-value cruise vessel sector is rattling European yards, leaders in an industry that requires sophisticated supply chains to make and fit out complex luxury liners. Some European shipbuilders fear China could come to dominate the cruise ship market, much as it has done in cargo ships over recent decades.


“This is a state objective that threatens to cause tremendous distortion in competition,” said Reinhard Luken, chief executive of the German Shipbuilding and Ocean Industries Association (VSM), which represents German maritime firms such as shipbuilders Meyer Werft and Meyer Turku.

“There are almost endless resources available if China has set a goal.”

Still, learning how to build cruise ships will not be easy for the Chinese, given the complex web of suppliers needed to furnish items from luxury carpets to soundproofing, industry experts say.

Japan’s Mitsubishi Heavy Industries quit building European cruise liners in October after its losses on two vessels for cruise operator Carnival Corp topped US$2 billion.

“It’s a hotel on the sea, (and) requires at least a few hundred suppliers,” said Lin Li, general manager at Lloyds’ Register’s Greater China marine and offshore business development department.

China’s shift into the cruise sector also comes as global demand for cargo ships has collapsed, shuttering scores of Chinese yards.

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Labourers work at Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding Co., Ltd. in Shanghai, China June 15, 2017. Photo: Reuters/Aly Song
At the Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding yard at the mouth of the Yangtze River, China State Shipbuilding Corp (CSSC) has brought in European advisers, including Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri, to help it learn how to compete in building cruise ships.

It has also attracted foreign suppliers such as Finland’s Wartsila to set up local joint ventures.

“Fincantieri has brought a few hundred workers here, and CSSC has sent technical staff to England for training,” said Alan Mong, a CSSC employee, during a recent media tour of the yard.

CSSC’s order for two cruise ships, which will be able to carry up to 5,000 passengers, is part of a US$1.5 billion deal signed in February with Carnival and Fincantieri. That deal, three years in the making, also includes an option for four more ships.

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Labourers have training at Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding Co., Ltd. in Shanghai, China June 15, 2017. Photo: Reuters/Aly Song
Fincantieri was encouraged to help China by Carnival, its biggest customer, which is itself pushing to develop China cruise lines, said two industry executives familiar with the local market. They asked not to be named as they didn’t want to jeopardise business relationships.

They said Carnival was told by the Chinese government it could only grow in China’s cruise market – projected to be the world’s second largest after the United States by 2030 – by helping the domestic industry develop.

CSSC did not respond to Reuters’ request for comment. China’s Ministry of Commerce declined to comment, saying it was a company matter.

Carnival said it encouraged Fincantieri to participate in the shipbuilding project, but noted its own plans to launch China’s first domestic cruise line with CSSC and China Investment Corp were negotiated independently. Fincantieri said it got into the Chinese market “based nothing more than on an analysis regarding the business opportunities from the great potential of the market.”

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Ship images are seen at a showroom of Shanghai Waigaoqiao Shipbuilding Co., Ltd. in Shanghai, China June 15, 2017. Photo: Reuters/Aly Song
Other Chinese yards are following suit, offering discounts of up to 30% and earlier delivery, to win orders from Western cruise lines.

In March, China Merchants Industry Holdings agreed a deal to build up to 10 vessels for Miami-based SunStone Ships, and Xiamen Shipbuilding Industry Co won a 194 million euro (US$222 million) order from Finland’s Viking Line in April for a 2,800-passenger cruise ferry.

“We were surprised at the number of interested yards,” said Viking Line’s CEO Jan Hanses, saying he received interest from six Chinese yards, including Guangzhou International Shipyard, Yantai CIMC Raffles and AVIC Weihai Shipyard.

“Competition is always good… If the European yards are left without competition they will stagnate.”

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An employee walks at a engine factory of CSSC Wartsila Engine (Shanghai) Co. Ltd in Shanghai, China June 13, 2017. Photo: Reuters/Aly Song
European yards currently have 68 cruise ships on order up to 2025, according to data from industry publication Seatrade Cruise, comfortably ahead of other regions.

But Nathalie Durand-Prinborgne, a representative for labour union Force Ouvrière’s section at shipbuilder STX France, said there are fears that French shipyards could eventually abandon the cruise market to the Chinese, as they did with LNG tankers.

Because of technology transfer concerns, she said the union opposes Fincantieri’s proposed takeover of STX France, which employs 2,600 people at the western port of Saint-Nazaire.

“In allying itself with the Chinese, Fincantieri not only shot itself in the foot, but also fired into ours,” she added.

And Raoul Jack, principal consultant at PFJ Maritime, an adviser to Chinese yards entering the cruise market, says it may be futile to try and stop the shift.

“Every yard is looking at the markets that are the most buoyant,” he said.

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"Google Earth images and Chinese-language sources show that it would be extremely difficult for Huludao’s new facility to build the next generation of Chinese nuclear submarines.
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strange claim!
as if the author never knew that the "old" facility was built exactly on the same foundation and proved to be successful.
as for launching procedures: the author probably know nothing about it.
weired.
For this " new " shipyard it is not mainly a matter of new classes but about production capacity* ( rumors for 2/year ) is the question and thing interesting, new classes we know they going for do.

*Last years they build 1 new by year about ( with ofc part of others but mainly one... ) BTW considering it with new 093A ( 2 ) and 093B ( 4 ) build after the 4th 094 since end 2012 the 1/year i mentionn i have big doubt for a 5th 094 seems planned 6 - 8 the 4th is the A variant.
 
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asif iqbal

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All that is great

But when will China start doing serious long range deep Ocean SSN and SSBN patrols ?

SSBN sitting within the seas of china providing long range nuclear deterrence is a poor mans strategy

Have we any reports that China's SSBN has been in combat patrol in the deep Pacific

All this investment and production into new generation submarines only to have them patrol where their predecessors left off?
 

nicky

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Chinese shipbuilders work real fast!
And their colleagues must already have something.
Will they skip ground tests? Let's watch Wuzhai ...

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nicky

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" ... Even if the railway could support the weight of a completed submarine, there are several “roadblocks” at the western terminus that prevent the transfer of any large vessel into the dry dock. Google Earth imagery shows the rail lines end at a massive dry dock wall. This wall is about six meters wide and at least one meter tall—there is no way to move a large, very heavy vessel over this wall. Furthermore, there are no rail lines in the shallow slipway ..."
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nicky

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It took just a couple of week for Chinese to overcome the "wall" (rail lines were ready by the end of June).
I wonder why Sean O'Connor praised the quoted (absurd) assessment ...

It took roughly 70 000 sq meters of roof cover for nuclear subs programs at Huludao.
Now it will be at least 150 000 sq meters added (with a prospect for more) ...
 
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