Chinese Economics Thread

AssassinsMace

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China lacks domestic resources? Just like the US and Europe and Japan? Yeah those are Third World countries. Sorry but historically the most aggressive actions in history around the world have been committed due to the lack of resources at home. Europe and Japan are basically moss covered rocks sticking out above sea level. As for the US... there was something I read somewhere on the internet or in a magazine or something a while ago that said there are something like one hundred fifty-six natural resources needed to maintain an industrial based economy. The territories of the US has only six of them. Why is there worry and alarm over China making deals around the world for natural resources if they're so secure at home?
 
Wow, thanks for the great report Crobato!

Some things I found surprising-

I couldn't find Hai'er's name.
H&M's dominance of the retail brand.
Sear's was on neither the top 100 nor the top retail brands, while Home Depot and Lowes were.
 

crobato

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Wow, thanks for the great report Crobato!

Some things I found surprising-

I couldn't find Hai'er's name.
H&M's dominance of the retail brand.
Sear's was on neither the top 100 nor the top retail brands, while Home Depot and Lowes were.


Yes. Note Toshiba, Hitachi, NEC, Samsung, LG, Boeing, Airbus, Porsche, Acer, are all aren't there either.

This isn't about a mere brand recognition contest but also how each company excels in their bottom line, how they execute and how they serve their respective markets. Note a Russian phone provider actually making it to the top 100.
 
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American Graduates Finding Jobs in China

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BEIJING — Shanghai and Beijing are becoming new lands of opportunity for recent American college graduates who face unemployment nearing double digits at home.

Even those with limited or no knowledge of Chinese are heeding the call. They are lured by China’s surging economy, the lower cost of living and a chance to bypass some of the dues-paying that is common to first jobs in the United States.

“I’ve seen a surge of young people coming to work in China over the last few years,” said Jack Perkowski, founder of Asimco Technologies, one of the largest automotive parts companies in China.

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Following a dismal H1 performance (January – May) for China's shipbuilding industry (SIB)—new orders received by Chinese shipbuilders decreased by 96 percent year-on-year (yoy), with a net of 1.18 million deadweight tons (DWT)—the sector posted a substantial boost of 8.8 million DWT in new orders for the months of June and July combined. According to statistics released by the China Association of the National Shipbuilding Industry (CANSI), a national association of the shipbuilding trade, in July, the country's new shipbuilding orders of 4.1 million DWT accounted for nearly 70 percent of the world's total (People’s Daily, August 17; China Economic Net, August 18). The surge in orders has some observers in the Chinese media hailing a recovery for the ailing industry, which faced a shortage of credit and looming job cuts if the conditions did not improve. Yet, according to some industry insiders and analysts, recovery is far from certain and the real hurdle ahead for the industry will surface in the coming months, when small- and medium-scale ship builders may have to stop production or close down factories, and large builders will be forced to lay off workers and cut salaries (China Daily, July 30). These challenges, however, are buoyed by another trend that may signal changes in the Chinese leadership's thinking toward further reforms of its defense-industrial complex, in particular, the ability of its defense as……………for continued reading………..

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American Graduates Finding Jobs in China

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BEIJING — Shanghai and Beijing are becoming new lands of opportunity for recent American college graduates who face unemployment nearing double digits at home.

Even those with limited or no knowledge of Chinese are heeding the call. They are lured by China’s surging economy, the lower cost of living and a chance to bypass some of the dues-paying that is common to first jobs in the United States.

“I’ve seen a surge of young people coming to work in China over the last few years,” said Jack Perkowski, founder of Asimco Technologies, one of the largest automotive parts companies in China.

(Read link for more)

Americans and many other non-Chinese have been doing business in China for many years now. This has been true for high school graduates, college graduates, and experienced workers. I know lots of Americans who have been working in China, and the vast majority are Chinese Americans. I know lots of non-Americans who do business in America. Chinese and Chinese American contributions to both China and America have been pretty much understated by the New York Times and other similar gloried junk.

I have been offended by the New York Times focusing on a select-few white Americans and Jewish Americans ever since its start, while ignoring Chinese Americans and other Americans as usual. What? Chinese Americans aren't Americans? Or are Chinese Americans second-rate citizens? How about other Americans? Maybe if the New York Times reports factual news and hires competent journalists, then the New York Times could gain more sales and fix its solvency problems. The New York Times blames the Internet advertising instead of their stupid managers and employees. Many "lesser" news sources in America and around the world have no problems working in the age of the Internet. If the New York Times wants to operate like a major or huge news source, then it has to stop its provincial news that only attracts an inadequate number of readers.

This article is another reason out of many for why I can't stand the New York Times and many other "big name" news. It's more trashy than informative. It's trying to hip and cool, or cosmopolitan, even though its attempt reveals how the New York Times is stubbornly outdated or provincial. The New York Times is barely able to stay in business despite its access to huge donations, grants, and loans from corrupt bankers.
 
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China now the world's largest exporter.

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China Overtakes Germany As Top Global Exporter


By Gary Bowerman, on 26-08-2009

Published in : The News, News August 2009

China exported goods worth USD521.7 bn in the first half of 2009, narrowly edging ahead of Germany, which exported goods worth USD521.6 bn, as the world's largest exporter, according to new data from the World Trade Organisation.

Germany has held the status as the world's leading exporter since 2003, and even though total Chinese exports have declined year on year for nine months, the WTO has predicted that China will pass Germany as the largest exporter in 2009.

Analaysts have noted that the full year export figure is hard to judge for both countries due to a number of crucial variables, such as the exchange rate as well as the rate of economic recovery, or otherwise, in certain regions.

The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has predicted that the ratio of China's foreign trade to global trade will increase from the current 8.7 per cent to 10 per cent when the global economy recovers.

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Violet Oboe

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So China is smoothly moving up in any ranking list...:

China will replace already in 2009 Japan as Number 2 economy (measured in nominal exchange rate based GDP), replace Germany as Number 1 exporter and will topple the US as the worlds biggest automotive market! (A ´pole position´ the US held for more than a century!)

Unfortunately some ´experts´ of the neocon Heritage Foundation (...yes the very same nuts that are telling us in their annual ranking of ´Economic Freedom´ that Saudi Arabia is much more economically free than Turkey:rofl:, ...wow they certainly get a hefty ´donation´ check from Riyadh every year.:D) are convinced that all this is only a carefully manipulated mirage by diabolic Chinese statisticians. Let them have their delusions, the awakening will be all the more shocking for them...:eek:
 

Schumacher

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Unfortunately some ´experts´ of the neocon Heritage Foundation (...yes the very same nuts that are telling us in their annual ranking of ´Economic Freedom´ that Saudi Arabia is much more economically free than Turkey:rofl:, ...wow they certainly get a hefty ´donation´ check from Riyadh every year.:D) are convinced that all this is only a carefully manipulated mirage by diabolic Chinese statisticians. Let them have their delusions, the awakening will be all the more shocking for them...:eek:

Very true, but not only the Heritage Foundation, have to say I haven't seen so many 'experts' acted so childishly for a long time with regard to doubting Chinese statistics this past few months for no other reason than not liking what they see.

It seems the Chinese statisticians are so good at creating the China growth 'mirage' that the effects are real and large enough to be felt in large economies like Japan & Germany etc. :D

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" Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Demand from China, the world’s fastest-growing major economy, is helping pull Japan out of its deepest postwar slump, a top Japanese government economist said.

“There’s no mistake that China’s economic recovery is contributing to a rebound in Japan and other economies in the region,” Tomoko Hayashi, director for overseas economies at the Cabinet Office in Tokyo, said in an interview on Aug. 21. ............"
 

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China's Marshall Plan in the Making?


By Zhang Bin, Liu Dan and Xiao Dan
Published: 2009-08-26

News, page 4
EO print edition, issue no. 432, August 17, 2009
Translated by Zhou Yuning
Original Article: [Chinese]

A major shakeup of China's export strategy is taking place. The country is considering altering its focus and may attempt to "create" more external demand by extending loans to trading partners.

The Economic Observer learned that the Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) had held numerous meetings recently to mull over new means and markets to spur plummeting exports following the global financial crisis.

In view of slower demand from the economically wounded US and EU markets - China's top export destinations - China would now actively explore the full potential of its neighbours and developing countries in Africa, Asia and South America.

The Ministry was even contemplating extending soft loans to developing countries in order to boost their capacity to purchase Chinese exports.

Referring to this strategy as a Chinese "Marshall Plan", former State Administration of Taxation deputy director Xu Shanda argued that by providing funding to help poorer countries to develop and lift their standard of living, the plan would eventually create a market for Chinese goods.

Xu, who is also a national committee member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, had submitted the proposal to the Ministry for consideration and feasibility assessment.

Creating External Demand

Since joining the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001, China's foreign trades grew by over 20% annually for five consecutive years. In 2007, exports accounted for as much as 37.5% of China's gross domestic product (GDP).

However, after the global financial crisis broke, regardless of the various measures taken by the government - raising export tax rebate, loosening credit control, easing fund raising requirements, improving custom clearing etc - Chinese exports slumped.

In the first seven months of this year, China's exports suffered a year-on-year decline of 22%, plunging to 627.1 billion US dollars.

While external demand plummeted, productive capacities continued to grow as China's four-trillion-yuan stimulus package began to take effect.

According to a State Council Development Research Center report - meant for internal circulation only - China's production capacity utilization rate only stood at about 50% to 60%, and many sectors experienced over-capacity in production.

The surplus production needed buyers, yet domestic demand would not surge dramatically in the foreseeable future, thus China must continue to seek buyers abroad.

To address the issue of boosting exports and over-capacity, Xu presented the Chinese "Marshall Plan" proposal to the MOFCOM recently.

The original term was named after former US secretary of State George Marshall, who initiated a program to aid the rebuilding and recovery of western European countries after the World World II.

Many regions under the program subsequently enjoyed unprecedented growth and prosperity. The program was also credited as one of the fist elements that pushed for European integration and removal of tariff trade barriers on a continental level.

In the Chinese "Marshall Plan" proposed by Xu, he suggested China draw 500 billion US dollars from its huge two-trillion US dollars of foreign reserves, and set up a fund to extend loans to developing countries in Africa, Asia and South America.

Xu reasoned that the move would bring about multiple benefits in the long run - apart from ramping up exports, it would also advance the globalization of the yuan, and allow China's domestic demand to grow at its own natural rate without the intervention of fiscal measures.

Challenges Ahead

One MOFCOM official told the EO: "The proportion of export contributions to GDP would not grow endlessly. It may have hit its ceiling in 2007."

He added that even when the US and EU economies recovered, their consumption pattern might be altered by the crisis.

For instance, the saving rate in the US used to be nearly zero, but it had grown to approximately 6% to 7% after the crisis, signaling a more prudent spending attitude among American consumers.

The official said the Chinese Marshall Plan might bring about positive impact in enlarging external demand in new markets.

However, even Xu himself admitted that the proposal is not without flaws.

At present, Chinese law and regulations prohibits withdrawal from the foreign reserves for direct lending to a third country. In addition, banks intending to offer foreign loans must first buy foreign currency from the State Administration of Foreign Exchange.

On one hand, Chinese banks have a rather low loan-verses-deposit ratio, whereby huge sums of yuan-denominated deposits are left "idle"; but on the other hand, this yuan-denominated money is barred from being extended as loans to foreign enterprises under current regulations.

While the Chinese Marshall Plan is still pending further consideration and approval from the MOFCOM, the EO learned that ministry officials had reached a consensus that creating new demand and markets would be a priority in the near future.

One of the first steps to develop new markets would be establishing more economic co-operation zones and free trade agreements with other developing countries, especially those that share borders with China.
 
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