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Yvrch

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Article about china´s debt problem

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Whoa. More than 15% fiscal deficit to GDP. We are talking about very high numbers. AFAIK the EU doesnt allow any member country to put that number above 3%.

This cant end well for china. They arent making any effort to deleverage or control the rise of debt.

To be fair, why don't we include states and local debts of US to US federal debt to compare apple to apple with your sensational 15%? You can pick any country for that matter, doesn't really matter.

Why brought in such non-sense here all the time? From the sound of it you are not that much of a stranger with financial stuff. Move on, there's nothing to see here.

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AssassinsMace

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South Korean sources say North Korea sold to China for $75 million its fishing rights in the Korean peninsula. I imagine South Korea isn't too happy about that since they complain to China about infrastructure projects on the Chinese side of the border with North Korea.
 

manqiangrexue

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South Korean sources say North Korea sold to China for $75 million its fishing rights in the Korean peninsula. I imagine South Korea isn't too happy about that since they complain to China about infrastructure projects on the Chinese side of the border with North Korea.
Get outta here! That's all they sold it for? How long? 6 months? LOL
75 mill is like 1 Su-35 and some little things with it!
 

ahojunk

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(Xinhua) 10:19, August 12, 2016

BEIJING, Aug. 12 -- China's value-added industrial output, an important economic indicator, expanded 6 percent year on year in July, slower than the 6.2 percent increase for June, official data showed Friday.

In the first seven months, industrial output rose 6 percent from the same period of 2015, the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) said in a statement.

Industrial output measures the output of Chinese companies with annual main business revenue of more than 20 million yuan (3 million U.S. dollars).

In a breakdown, output in the central regions rose 7.6 percent last month, followed by 6.7 percent for the eastern regions and 6.6 percent for the west.

Output of automobile manufacturing saw strongest growth of 22.9 percent in July, and the electronics manufacturing output up 12 percent, NBS said.
 

antiterror13

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South Korean sources say North Korea sold to China for $75 million its fishing rights in the Korean peninsula. I imagine South Korea isn't too happy about that since they complain to China about infrastructure projects on the Chinese side of the border with North Korea.

Well, NK is a sovereign country, she can do whatever she wants ... nothing SK can do anyway ... tit-tat for THAAD?
 

Equation

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South Korean sources say North Korea sold to China for $75 million its fishing rights in the Korean peninsula. I imagine South Korea isn't too happy about that since they complain to China about infrastructure projects on the Chinese side of the border with North Korea.

Why the Samsung is South Korea is so concern about what China does within her border along with North Korea in regards to infrastructure projects?o_O
 

Equation

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Alibaba passes earnings milestones, silent on SEC probe


BENGALURU/BEIJING (Reuters) - China's Alibaba Group Holding Ltd posted its best revenue growth since before the e-commerce titan's listing in late 2014, lifting its shares to their highest level in a year.

But Alibaba was silent on the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) investigation into its accounting practices, which have long been the subject of criticism.

In the three months to June 30, Alibaba also made more money from mobile shopping than from PCs for the first time, helping to send its shares up by more than 5 percent to $92.10 in New York, its highest level in more than a year.

"We never had any doubt that we would be able to deliver increasing monetisation of our users," Executive Vice Chairman Joe Tsai told a post-earnings conference call.

"This is a decoupling of revenue from GMV (gross merchandise volume)," he said, referring to a measure of the total value of goods transacted on Alibaba's online shopping platforms.

Despite GMV growth remaining low compared to previous years, rising 24 percent to 837 billion yuan, Alibaba is squeezing more money out of its e-commerce business, chiefly from advertising.

That translated to quarterly revenues of 32.15 billion yuan ($4.84 billion), a 59 percent leap from the previous year and the highest growth rate since late 2013.

Analysts had on average had expected revenue of 30.17 billion yuan, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

Chief Financial Officer Maggie Wu said the ratio of money Alibaba made from e-commerce transactions was higher for mobile users than non-mobile users for the first time, something investors had expressed scepticism about before its IPO.

Net income attributable to shareholders fell to 7.14 billion yuan, or 2.94 yuan per share, from 30.82 billion yuan, or 11.92 yuan per share, in the year-earlier quarter, when Alibaba deconsolidated its film business.

However, China's flagging economic growth could threaten Alibaba, said Wedbush Securities' Gil Luria.

"If there is a slowdown in the Chinese economy. ... I don't believe Alibaba is going to escape that," Luria said.



BRANCHING OUT

While China e-commerce was strong for Alibaba in its first quarter, the company is also investing in other businesses including cloud computing arm Aliyun, driverless vehicles and online shopping in Southeast Asia. It hopes these can become an eventual source of growth as Alibaba faces the prospect of a saturated online retail market in China.

Although some are showing promise - Aliyun sales rose 156 percent, though only contributed 4 percent of total revenue - most are still loss-making.

Tsai also took aim at those who had criticised Alibaba for its opaque accounting practices, noting that the company had started to report its revenues by business segments and provide more detail about its earnings.

"We have worked hard to make it easy to understand Alibaba," he said. "We have provided you with more detailed info about our company so that you can better analyse our business."

However, Alibaba said in June it would in the future only release GMV figures, a measure it had previously strongly emphasized, on an annual basis.

This followed the disclosure that the SEC was probing Alibaba's accounting practices, related party transactions and data from its annual Singles' Day shopping festival, which produces figures the firm touts as a yardstick for its scale and success.

Asked about the investigation on Bloomberg Television, Tsai said there were no updates.

Even when a Chinese company such as Alibaba did great the media had to add some negativity into the news. Sounds like the anti-China media is losing the fight therefore couldn't handle the truth.:rolleyes:
 

ahojunk

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This clearing bank will increase the use of RMB.

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2016-08-11 13:31 | chinadaily.com.cn | Editor: Feng Shuang

China's central bank is expected to choose a Chinese lender to clear yuan transactions in the United Arab Emirates by the end of this year, which would strengthen the growing economic ties between China and the Middle East, Reuters reports.

Middle East's first yuan clearing centre was opened in Qatar last April, with the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) becoming the clearing bank, handling 350 billion yuan ($52.6 billion) in transactions since it launched, Zhou Xiaodong, general manager of ICBC's Dubai branch, told Reuters.

The launch of a clearing bank in the UAE could influence trade and investment in the Gulf, where Dubai acts as the region's top business centre, handling flows of money and goods to countries in the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council and beyond, Reuters reports.

Fang Min, senior executive officer of Agricultural Bank of China (ABC), told Reuters: "In this region everyone thinks of Dubai as the hub for the whole of the Middle East".

"From an economic and financial centre point of view, Dubai is the most appropriate (place) to set up an offshore renminbi market," Fang said.

The yuan clearing bank in the UAE will be chosen among Agricultural Bank of China, ICBC, Bank of China and China Construction Bank, according to Fang.

The trade between China and the UAE was estimated at $60 billion last year, up from $47.6 billion in 2014, according to Dubai International Financial Centre (DIFC).

In addition, as the UAE is the most active country in the Middle East in using yuan for direct payments to China, yuan was used for 74 percent of payments by value from the UAE to Chinese mainland and Hong Kong on the SWIFT international transactions network last year.

Fang said he expected the UAE's ratio for SWIFT direct payments in yuan could increase to 80 or 85 percent by 2020.
 
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