Chinese Citizens REVOLT in Wukan!!

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
The Soviet Unions economy was stuffed from the arms race. and it certainly needed to undergo some drastic changes if it was to survive.
Ive visited the old Soviet Union a few times , and I once commented to the manager in the hotel i was staying at about the sorry condition of their glass brickwork at the front, he just shurgged. I happen to revisit the same hotel a couple of yrs later and commented to the manager that theyve tied up the glass brickworks. He just smiled and a couple of days later i noticed that the glass brickworks from the back had been demolished so they could use them in the front.
Now whats that telling you about the Old Soviet Union eh?
 
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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Conveniently ignore China has been around for 5000 years beforehand. Were the Chinese surviving on hope for 5000 years knowing they could get a handout from the US that wouldn't exist for another 5000 years? And let's not forget what dastardly force took China from it's reign as the richest country on earth. So let us now apply that logic of "What if?"
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Singapore isn't strictly a democracy as the ruling party always wins majority in the house. It also has draconian laws that don't meet Western standards of respecting human rights. Yet, it is ranked 1st place on the Corruption Perceptions Index.

According to Transparency international

://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/dec/01/corruption-index-2011-transparency-international

Singapore only shared ist place with Nz and Denmark in 2010 in 2011 it dropped away to 5th place. At a guess it was probably due to scoring poorly on the human rights and democracy level index.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Yeah and the same reason why they don't count the massive non-tranparency that resulted in the 2008 finacial crisis is why the way they conducted their study cannot be trusted. Like I said, its legitimacy is at the same level of People magazine decidng for themeselves for the world who's the most beautiful person in the world.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Yeah and the same reason why they don't count the massive non-tranparency that resulted in the 2008 finacial crisis is why the way they conducted their study cannot be trusted. Like I said, its legitimacy is at the same level of People magazine decidng for themeselves for the world who's the most beautiful person in the world.

I seriously doubt whether first placed NZ had anything to do with the cause of thefinancial crisis. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Well I'm sure NZ is not as transparent as the hype but I wasn't talking about NZ. I'm talking about the countries that were part of the scheme that led to the 2008 financial crisis. Since that corruption and non-tranparency was on the highest scale in history, I bet that's not reflected fully in that report. Why? Bias of course. Just like People magazine. If it were China, you better bet all that scheming in the markets would be reflected on China in that study.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Just stating the fact that China's growth in those early yearls was highly dependant on the wests participation.

As I say before nothing of sort People should not claim credit where credit is not due. The west boycott China for at least 10 years. They only get back because their competitor Japan and Korea invest in China

FDI is not altruism .People invest with expectation of getting high return. So You can stuff your ego stroking hubris.If China is not profitable nobody will invest in China

Anyway china receive 90 billion FDI out of 6 Trillion economy. It is not even 1% So how is it that The west help China ?

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beginning of the reform. In late 1970s, the government established four SEZs in the two southeast coastal provinces, Guangdong and Fujian. In Guangdong province, three SEZs are established in Shenzhen, Zhuhai and Shantou. Shenzhen was a small town sharing a border with the then British colony Hong Kong. Zhuhai is next to Macao, another growing economy in the region. Both are populated largely with Cantonese speaking Chinese, who are either descendents of those emigrated from Guangdong province or have themselves migrated from Guangdong. Shantou is another coastal town lies near the border between Guangdong and Fujian. These SEZs are chosen with a clear intention to attract investment from oversea Chinese in not only Hong Kong and Macao, but in other Southeast Asian economies as well. There is also a fourth SEZs, Xiamen, Xianmen in Fujian province. It is a relatively industrialized city, located near Taiwan, only divided by the narrow Taiwan Strait.
Partly a result of the government conscious policy choice, investment from overseas Chinese has been the major source of China’s FDI inflow, especially during the late 1980s and the early 1990s. In particular, Hong Kong has so far been the most important source of China’s FDI inflow (Table 3). Investment from Taiwan4, Singapore, and Macau, the other Chinese economies, has also been very important. Other external factors have also contributed to the increasing cross-border investment activities in these economies, such as domestic currency appreciation. Between1983 and 2000, actual FDI inflow from Hong Kong amounts to more than US$ 170 billion5, accounting for about half of FDI utilization during the period in China (Figure 3). United States, Japan and Taiwan are the second, third and fourth largest investors in China, each invested about US$ 30 billion, 28 billion and 25 billion, respectively. FDI

While economics in Southeast Asia have maintained their role as important sources of China’s FDI, there is a trend that investment from other part of the world, especially from Western Europe and North America have gained strength, especially in the 1990s. Table 3 shows the changes in investment of the major source economies for China’s FDI inflow. Hong Kong is still the most important source for FDI inflow in China. However, the share of Hong Kong investment in total FDI inflow from Hong Kong has decreased from 68% in 1992 to about 48% in 2000. In recent years, even the total amount of FDI has decreased. Similar pattern exists for investment from Taiwan, and to some extent, Singapore, and Malaysia
 
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bladerunner

Banned Idiot
As I say before nothing of sort People should not claim credit where credit is not due. The west boycott China for at least 10 years. They only get back because their competitor Japan and Korea invest in China

FDI is not altruism .People invest with expectation of getting high return. So You can stuff your ego stroking hubris.If China is not profitable nobody will invest in China

Anyway china receive 90 billion FDI out of 6 Trillion economy. It is not even 1% So how is it that The west help China ?

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beginning of the reform. In late 1970s, the government established four SEZs in the two southeast coastal provinces, Guangdong and Fujian. In Guangdong province, three SEZs are established in Shenzhen, Zhuhai and Shantou. Shenzhen was a small town sharing a border with the then British colony Hong Kong. Zhuhai is next to Macao, another growing economy in the region. Both are populated largely with Cantonese speaking Chinese, who are either descendents of those emigrated from Guangdong province or have themselves migrated from Guangdong. Shantou is another coastal town lies near the border between Guangdong and Fujian. These SEZs are chosen with a clear intention to attract investment from oversea Chinese in not only Hong Kong and Macao, but in other Southeast Asian economies as well. There is also a fourth SEZs, Xiamen, Xianmen in Fujian province. It is a relatively industrialized city, located near Taiwan, only divided by the narrow Taiwan Strait.
Partly a result of the government conscious policy choice, investment from overseas Chinese has been the major source of China’s FDI inflow, especially during the late 1980s and the early 1990s. In particular, Hong Kong has so far been the most important source of China’s FDI inflow (Table 3). Investment from Taiwan4, Singapore, and Macau, the other Chinese economies, has also been very important. Other external factors have also contributed to the increasing cross-border investment activities in these economies, such as domestic currency appreciation. Between1983 and 2000, actual FDI inflow from Hong Kong amounts to more than US$ 170 billion5, accounting for about half of FDI utilization during the period in China (Figure 3). United States, Japan and Taiwan are the second, third and fourth largest investors in China, each invested about US$ 30 billion, 28 billion and 25 billion, respectively. FDI

While economics in Southeast Asia have maintained their role as important sources of China’s FDI, there is a trend that investment from other part of the world, especially from Western Europe and North America have gained strength, especially in the 1990s. Table 3 shows the changes in investment of the major source economies for China’s FDI inflow. Hong Kong is still the most important source for FDI inflow in China. However, the share of Hong Kong investment in total FDI inflow from Hong Kong has decreased from 68% in 1992 to about 48% in 2000. In recent years, even the total amount of FDI has decreased. Similar pattern exists for investment from Taiwan, and to some extent, Singapore, and Malaysia

I was referring to the start when China needed the West buy her goods. It certainly wasnt those SE Asian states that she was getting rich from. You can invest all you want make all you want, but if nobody is buying.........
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
I was referring to the start when China needed the West buy her goods. It certainly wasnt those SE Asian states that she was getting rich from. You can invest all you want make all you want, but if nobody is buying.........

Again commerce is not favor. People buy product because of good price and reasonable quality. Were it not for cheap Chinese,The west has to live with lower living standard. Trade is mutually profitable transaction. No one owe any favor.Hey The west can close their market if they can afford it!.

For your information China did booming commerce with SEA back in early 90. The lesson from exporting to those SEA was latter applied when the western market was open
 
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