China's strategy in Korean peninsula

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manqiangrexue said:
Are you sure? I think you have SK confused with Japan. Japan has no control over American military presence on its territory. I believe that SK is able to command American forces to leave as they are bound by no WWII master-slave kind of contract. Or do you know of any legal document that takes the power away from SK hands?

Logically, yes, a united and stable Korea should have no inclination to harbor foreign militaries but... do you trust them more or do you trust yourself more? I'd rather hold that land under Chinese control so that certainly no foreign forces would be permitted on it AND also, it would become Chinese territory that can create jobs developing it into a GDP-generating productive province!
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That actually bring up an interesting question from me. Is there a legal ground that prevent Japan to ask US military to leave? I am not aware of any, of course I did not read the content of Japan-US treaty so I don't know.

So my understanding is that Japan and SK are in the same situation legally speaking, whatever the name is used to call that situation.
 
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taxiya said:
That actually bring up an interesting question from me. Is there a legal ground that prevent Japan to ask US military to leave? I am not aware of any, of course I did not read the content of Japan-US treaty so I don't know.

So my understanding is that Japan and SK are in the same situation legally speaking, whatever the name is used to call that situation.
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Is there a legal question on Japan asking US to leave? I saw a TV news a few years ago on a US official saying the base on Okinawa will be closed if asked by the government. Not sure if he was talking about the Governor of Okinawa or the imperial government in Tokyo.
 
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taxiya said:
That actually bring up an interesting question from me. Is there a legal ground that prevent Japan to ask US military to leave? I am not aware of any, of course I did not read the content of Japan-US treaty so I don't know.

So my understanding is that Japan and SK are in the same situation legally speaking, whatever the name is used to call that situation.
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Nononononono Japan and SK are in completely different boats. SK asked for US help when attacked by NK. Japan is militarily colonized as punishment for losing WWII. They signed their sovereign rights away and agreed to make a new constitution under American approval. Japan has about as much legal power to tell the US military to buzz off as a slave to his master. SK actually has the power to say, "You've done enough 'helping' here and it's time to bounce."
 
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solarz said:
Tibet and Xinjiang are also sparsely populated.

However, the real issue is one of legitimacy. The CPC has a narrative of opposing imperialism and defending the sovereignty of nations. Occupying NK would seriously undermine the legitimacy of the CPC, and that is a far more serious threat than even American hositility.
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LOL but no one wants to live in Tibet or Xinjiang. One's all snowy mountains and the other's a desert.

Who would they have to defend the legitimacy of the operation to? International community? Look at what NATO countries do to the middle east. Go fix that before you bother me. To the Chinese population? I think they all know what's at stake here. You want a new province or a hostile US-occupied military base?

Oh, my fault! I forgot to mention they need to hold a referendum and rig the vote (99.99% in favor) for NK to join China. Tots forgot to mention. Thought it was included when I said "Crimea style." LOL
 
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Janiz said:
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Read this first. But it doesn't have anything to do with North Korea.
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Thanks for the full texts of the treaty.

According to ARTICLE X, it means Japan can ask US to leave by terminating of the treaty (which grant US presence) with one year notice in advance.
 
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Blackstone said:
Is there a legal question on Japan asking US to leave? I saw a TV news a few years ago on a US official saying the base on Okinawa will be closed if asked by the government. Not sure if he was talking about the Governor of Okinawa or the imperial government in Tokyo.
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I was only asking a pure legal/academical question, a possibility rather than reality.

From the post of the treaty texts by Janiz in #224, it seems that the US official was right. And the government is surely the government in Tokyo as the treaty party.
 
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Apologize if my curiosity dragged Japan into this thread.

Let's not to be carried away from "China's strategy in Korean peninsula".
 
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