China Flanker Thread II

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Deino

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Would that mean that after the plant for J-15 and J-16 was built the plant for J-11 was modernized? Then they took quite a lot of time for that modernization but perhaps also for training the personnel.


Actually I don't know if that theory is correct, IMO we simply have not enough info on how serial-production is managed at SAC.
 

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Do we really know for sure that there is only one Flanker production facility? Or are there in fact two - one for the J-11B and J-15 for years, which was changed to J-16 and J-15 and now J-16 and J-11B, while the J-15T is prepared for serial manufacturing??

I'm almost sure that J-16-production is continuing in parallel.

Deino

You don' t mention J-11D, build ? can be delivered for when i have in my notes from ? 2018.
Seems logic the D replace B for production.
Last J-11B batch as you have say 2014 but also 4 years of gap bteween the 2 last JH-7A Rgt 2012 -2016... despite it he is replaced by J-16 coz no JH-7B finaly, different of J-11B... and i think J-11B production is finished.

For numbers build 1 plant build ( before 24 J-11B ) about 25 birds/year about 16 J-16 in general i see 50 normaly make sense only series and first in 2014 match... and about 8+ J-15 so the 25 birds i don't see mystery.
 
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Deino

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You don' t mention J-11D, build ? can be delivered for when i have in my notes from ? 2018.
Seems logic the D replace B for production.
Last J-11B batch as you have say 2014 but also 4 years of gap bteween the 2 last JH-7A Rgt 2012 -2016... despite it he is replaced by J-16 coz no JH-7B finaly, different of J-11B... and i think J-11B production is finished.

For numbers build 1 plant build ( before 24 J-11B ) about 25 birds/year about 16 J-16 in general i see 50 normaly make sense only series and first in 2014 match... and about 8+ J-15 so the 25 birds i don't see mystery.

Pardon if I do not understand Your post correctly, and YES, the J-11D might replace the J-11B.

But fact is, these are J-11B, plain and simple not much (IMO not) different to the Batch 06 aircraft from 2014/15 so J-11B production is not finished and J-11D has not started yet.

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FORBIN

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Pardon if I do not understand Your post correctly, and YES, the J-11D might replace the J-11B.

But fact is, these are J-11B, plain and simple not much (IMO not) different to the Batch 06 aircraft from 2014/15 so J-11B production is not finished and J-11D has not started yet.

Deino
Sorry many types and difficult ! :) but OK i understand no J-11D series production birds yet build.

And meantime i see it

The latest rumor (March 2017) claimed that the project has been delayed due to the full-scale production of J-11B and J-16.
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According J-10 production but more small etc... was produced according you, henri K + others up to 48B in 2014 in 1 plant... have decrease now surely in relation with j-20 more expensive to 32C for 2016.
Thinking this plant can build more not necessary 2.
 
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Sorry many types and difficult ! :) but OK i understand no J-11D series production birds yet build.

And meantime i see it



According J-10 production but more small etc... was produced according you, henri K + others up to 48B in 2014 in 1 plant... have decrease now surely in relation with j-20 more expensive to 32C for 2016.
Thinking this plant can build more not necessary 2.
I guess it's not about the production rate of flankers, but production rate of WS10B(or whatever new WS10). J11D should be installed this new engine, but the engine is not enough and J16 has higher priority.
 

antiterror13

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Sorry many types and difficult ! :) but OK i understand no J-11D series production birds yet build.

And meantime i see it

According J-10 production but more small etc... was produced according you, henri K + others up to 48B in 2014 in 1 plant... have decrease now surely in relation with j-20 more expensive to 32C for 2016.
Thinking this plant can build more not necessary 2.

I am totally confused, trying hard to understand what you meant .. but no luck :(

I really like most of your posts though .....apart from sometimes you are biased ... and thats ok ;)
 

FORBIN

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I am totally confused, trying hard to understand what you meant .. but no luck :(

I really like most of your posts though .....apart from sometimes you are biased ... and thats ok ;)

I need to stop you coz again...

Sorry many types and difficult !
and BTW even when it is simple you don' t understand in fact you don't want, so.
Unable to understand RAAN is a blue water navy !

In more this style of posts are useless and you are a specialist you do it regularly with samurai which is not agressive in addition you don't provide interestings infos only your very delicate personnal biased mood how delicate !!!
 
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