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HMAS Hobart launched as PM warns of regional threats
September 23, 2017 10:04am
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RAN welcomes DDG HMAS Hobart into the Fleet
23 Sep 2017
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The brand new guided missile destroyer (DDG) HMAS Hobart (III) was ceremoniously inducted into service by the Royal Australian Navy on Saturday, 23 September 2017, heralding a new era in warship fighting capability for the service.

In attendance at the commissioning ceremony at Garden Island Fleet Base East in Sydney were the Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, Defence Minister Marise Payne, and a host of officials representing the ADF, Defence, and industry.

“The commissioning of Hobart is the culmination of the hard work of thousands of Australians who built and delivered the future capability of the Royal Australian Navy,” Minister Payne said.

“The crew and shipbuilders who have brought this new capability into service are to be congratulated on their achievement.”

Designer Navantia, which was eventually brought into the fold of the consortium responsible for Hobart's construction as a shipbuilding management services provider, issued a statement declaring its pride in the roles it had played in delivering the 7,000 tonne first of class destroyer.

“Through our experience in the AWD program, Navantia Australia has developed strong partnerships with Australian industry and a deep understanding of the Royal Australian Navy and Australian Defence Force requirements,” Donato Martínez, Navantia Australia’s managing director said.

Navantia Australia’s board director and ex-chief executive of the CASG predecessor DMO Warren Kingsaid the warship is a state-of-the-art ship which will provide the Royal Australian Navy with its most capable multipurpose warfare capability.

“Lead ship of her class, HMAS Hobart is a true example of Australian defence industry capability – designed for Australia, built in Australia for Australia.”

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two days after commissioning Hobart will spend a week on a buoy and at sea undertaking a mariner skills evaluation conducted by the RAN’s Sea Training Group.

This will be followed by a relatively minor upgrade taking Aegis combat system software to the Australian 1.1 configuration. This is already installed on NUSHIP Brisbane, which is currently undertaking harbour sea trials at ASC in Adelaide.

October will take in firings of Hobart’s 5-inch main gun and its close-in defence weapons systems followed by five weeks alongside in Sydney conducting Aegis warfighting training, then a further fortnight of sea trials.
 

FORBIN

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Your are OK error coz no location/country on your profile... but allow me even if you don't like some politics or party etc... in your country personnaly I would not post like this for France it is an international forum and the world look... do bad publicity not good for the country !
 

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Your are OK error coz no location/country on your profile... but allow me even if you don't like some politics or party etc... in your country personnaly I would not post like this for France it is an international forum and the world look... do bad publicity not good for the country !
I give up, let's move on.
 
Thursday at 9:24 PM
Australia to receive “digital shipyard” in Adelaide, frigate contender promises
oh really?

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now another SEA 5000 contender outlines plans for sovereign capability
26 September 2017
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One of the international primes vying for the $35 billion Future Frigates Program has labelled industry partnerships as a key element of its bid, as it looks to answer the government’s calls for strong Australian industry content (AIC) and a sovereign shipbuilding industry.

Navantia Australia board member and former head of the Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO) Warren King talked up the company's bid for the SEA 5000 project at last week's Defence Teaming Centre Annual Dinner and Awards Ceremony, saying its plan will deliver sustainable employment to Australians.

"Navantia Australia has a clear plan to build a sovereign naval shipbuilding capability in Australia," King said.

"If building capability is our focus, the program will provide sustainable employment for people in South Australia and around the country. As Minister Pyne has said, we want shipbuilding to be a ‘job for life’.

"Navantia Australia estimate that our offer for the future frigate will provide over 7,000 South Australian jobs, both in the shipyard and across the supply chain, working with over 200 South Australian companies."

The former DMO boss added that Navatia's experience as the vessel designer on the Air Warfare Destroyer project will aid the SEA 5000 program.

"A shipyard is not an isolated entity, it is the hub of a broad ecosystem. Growing Australian industrial capability is not just about the shipbuilder," King explained.

"To build a sovereign shipbuilding capability you need to have integrated design and build functions working together. I think the worth of that integration of the designer and builder has been proven in the work we have done over the last two years stabilising and drawing to completion the Air Warfare Destroyer program as the shipyard management services contractor.

"Naturally, this has only been achieved in conjunction with the alliance parties – ASC, Raytheon and Defence – and the broader Australian industry.

"We need to take those lessons learnt from the Hobart Class and carry them forward onto future programs."

The company's industry partnerships with local SMEs will also be crucial if it is selected as the successful tenderer, according to King.

"Being both a designer and shipbuilder, and working from a mature design which has already been built here means that Navantia Australia already has a unique understanding of the requirements of our vessel, and how Australian industry can contribute," he said.

"Our shipbuilding model is focused on partnerships. Already we have shown this in our work in Australia to date. For instance, we have a joint venture with SAGE Automation here in South Australia, and we have worked with and mentored a range of SMEs here and around the country to prepare them to work on shipbuilding programs.

"Our promise to Australian industry is not just that you will be able to win work with us on the future frigates, but you will grow. We will work with you to grow your capability, grow your business and grow the skills of your employees."

Navantia is competing against Italy's Fincantieri and the UK's BAE Systems for the design, build and sustainment of the nine new anti-submarine warfare frigates to replace Australia's Anzac frigate fleet.

A decision on the successful tenderer is expected by April next year.
 
now noticed Australia facing submarine capability gap, report suggests
Posted on September 27, 2017
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The complicated process of designing and building new submarines from scratch could leave Australia with no submarines in its fleet over a period of several years, an independent report has warned.

The Insight Economics report, commissioned by Gary Johnston from Submarines for Australia, suggests that there is a possibility for the new submarines to be delivered too late, which would be after 2036, when the current Collins-class submarines are scheduled to be decommissioned.

“So in a time of a heightened strategic threat, we may lack any credible submarine capability for a decade or more. And it takes a long time to restore that capability, not just by building platforms but in retaining personnel and being able to train new people,” Johnston says.

Another issue highlighted in the report is the cost which is, according to Australian National University professor Hugh White – who contributed to the report, too high for what the submarines will be offering in capabilities.

The report suggests that an estimated price of $40 billion in 2016 prices, or over $3 billion per submarine, is too expensive for a conventionally-powered submarine with no air-independent propulsion system. Purchasing off-the-shelf submarines was a more sound option, the report argues, giving comparative prices for both conventionally and nuclear-powered submarines.

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The report is provided by self interested parties with nothing better to do than seek attention. A bit like the mob that wanted to re engine F 111's to the last gasp of the F-35's being introduced. Wouldn't be surprised if they haven't all held hands at some stage and sung kumbaya.
 
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I think there are reasonable questions to be asked about our current submarine plans. Unfortunately the most basic question -- whether Australia actually needs 12 submarines and if such an expansion represents a sensible allocation of defence resources -- tends to go unexamined in most critical discourse. The other issue is one of risk: technological risk, budgetary risk, schedule risk.

Personally I would've been far more comfortable with a more modest fleet (i.e. 8-9 units) of more modest submarines with lower cost and risk profiles. The Japanese Soryu-class would probably have been the lead candidate according to those priorities, and to further reduce cost and risk I would've deep-sixed the idea of substituting an American combat system. It was a bad idea on Collins, and sticking with it is just throwing good money after bad.

Curious what strategic threat the Johnston dude is talking about

Take a guess.
 
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