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    This thread is predominantly for new, inexperienced posters on SD. There will be one in each forum and the questions should relate to the overall topic of the forum in which it is located..

    It is for true nubie or greenie questions that we do not want to clutter up our main threads with.

    It is also for "off the wall," questions or suggestions, even from more experienced users on SD.

    Our forum is very broad ranging and everyone cannot be experts on everything...so in one of the forums, if you have a legitimate question you have been afraid or embarrassed to ask...this is where you can do it.

    As moderators see questions that may fit into these categories on other threads...they may well move them here to try and keep our more serious threads as professional as possible.

    Be patient. Longer time members will watch these threads as will moderators...but it may take us a whole to get to some of these questions.

    So...with that...carryon!
     
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    How do you post a PDF file? Not a link but the actual PDF. I haven't tried the "upload file" button because I'm not exactly sure if that does what it says.
     
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    You can use the Upload file to upload a PDF as an attachment...but it only works up to a certain size. I know that even a 2mb PDF errors out saying it is too large.

    But the attached PDF, as an example, which is only about 125k, does load.
     

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    125KB is a bit low. Most of the PDF's I have in mind are multiple MB's. Oh well.

    The PDF you posted is historically interesting in the context of today's Justice Department. I think things might have turned out different if Eric Holder had been in charge. Plus Oregon and California are the native stomping grounds for eco-warriors as any farmer in the San Joaquin valley would tell you.
     
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    I was there...and that book cover is for the book I published about the event.

    SD members can get a free download of it:

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    The whole thing had its genesis in the Clinton Administration and very rabid environmental activists who strongly influenced an Oregon judge in coming up with the initial ruling that ultimately turned the Farmer's water off.

    Things would have turned out completely different if Obama and Holder had been in power...or if Clinton had stayed in office (thankfully he could not).

    Heck, even with the new Bush administration it was a near run thing because he was brand new in office and had not gotten down to that level of minutia yet...but we helped him figure it out, LOL!.

    The people that made the most difference were simply the American people who heard about it and were outraged at it. We knew they would be if we could get the owrd out.

    I have to say, that the people that made the biggest difference in the Bush administration at the time were.:

    #1 John Keyes. He was appointed as the new Commissioner of the US Bureau of Reclamation. He immediately took a close look at this from a Water Use, Water Rights, and common sense perspective as opposed to any Political, PC, activist, etc. standpoint. He then began instituting change that led to a new technical review and finding that recognized the farmer water rights and a much more clear adherence to their constitutional rights.

    #2 Karl Rove. As funny as it may seem, he recognized the political implications for Bush in this. We had worked up a very strong grassroots and (at the time) internet campaign to inform people and we were getting hundreds of people...and later thousands...showing up at the head gates in support of the farmers. Most of these farmers had voted for Bush as were the people signing the petition and coming to Klamath. Rove recognized this and personally spoke with the president to have him work with the DOI, DOJ, and the USBR to turn things around...and they did.

    In the end, the Farmers got their water back and got a critical seat at the table in any future discussions or issues.

    An interesting part of this is that I was one of the principle people pushing for this to get turned over...and demonstrating against the policies of the DOI and USBR that the Clinton administration had allowed to be established.

    Later...I was hired by the USBR and have worked for them ever since (12 years now), and now am in a Sr. Technical and Project Management role for them..

    I doubt a Clinton administration or an Obama administration would have ever allowed me to be even hired.
     
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    of course you wouldn't have been hired, and I would remind all that Mr. Bush did not wholesale replace all the federal appointees who were Democrat when he took office, he is/was a very straight up character, and we all miss him whether or not we realize it??? the Affordable care act is an obamanation, as is Benghazi, IRS targeting TEA Party ad infiniteum???

    I lost my Hospice JOBS, yes all three of them, due to the re-write of Medicare guidelines set forth by the BHO team, to add insult to injury, I had to pay a 153.00 fine to the federal govt because my income is 1/4 of what it was before Mr. Obama took office, and yes that's why I refer to Illinois as Central Obamastan, it is run like a Soviet Republic, sadly the rest of the Nation is not far behind???
     
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    The whole discussion about Bombers has been moved to the Modern Bomber Thread.

    If you are looking for your comments...you will find them there
     
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    I came through a documentary made by JASDF a while ago which is about procedure of intercepting foreign aircraft in their air identify zone. One thing bother me is JASDF pilot seems to communicate with air control in english, severely twisted, but still english. It was a japanese fighter jet take off from a JASDF base (not even one of those base shared with USAF) on japanese land talking to JASDF air control, and they speak in a foreign language english. It might be the need to cooprate with USAF but i doubt a native english speaker can understand their english. Later in the documentary they also asked a Y-12 to leave using chinese which is even harder to understand than their english. To be honest i failed to understand every single word. I can't even recognize that was chinese they were speaking.

    So here's the two question:

    1. Do JASDF pilots really speak english in air even when talking to one of their own?

    2. When intercepting a foreign aircraft (which happens a lot between russia, us, china, japan), is it common that the intercepted pilot cannot understand the warning or instruction the interceptor makes? How many incidents were actually caused by misunderstanding rather than someone being provoking or aggressive like most believe?
     
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    I cannot speak about the JASDF specificly. However, to not let this question go completely unanswered, here's what I can say.
    The working language in international aviation is english. Pretty much all the ATC speak is done in that language and I would think the JASDF, even talking to their own controllers, will do it in english. Just to stay in training, so to say. I guess that normally aircraft being intercepted will be called on the radio in english, too. If the nationality of the respective pilot is known and the intercepting pilot speaks that language, it may be prudent to use that. However, one should indeed be fairly certain the speaker is proficient to a level that will ensure the intent can be met /conveied that way.

    This is now a bit off, but for NATO, all the tactical talk on the radio is done in english basicly. Even on purely national training missions. Just so you remember the word when you really need it.
    Within a flight german pilots will sometines speak some type of Denglish, mixing native words with the applicable english terms. I would guess that this is the same for pretty much all other nations as well. Except for the british and americans of course.
     
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    First thanks for answering my question.

    I thought this pilots must speak english thing is for civilian transportation only and only started since 2008 but for military pilots? Wouldn't communicating in a foreign language in battle considerably reduce combat efficiency?

    This might work in europe caused european countries possessing languages more similar to english than asian countries like japan or south korea.

    ps: Does french follow this rule too? They always have this independent national defense complex and they've quit nato for deacdes.
     
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