Aircraft Carriers III

Air Force Brat

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Which if you do figure 30 to 35 knots across the deck, your threshold airspeed is 110-115knts across the threshold...fifty knots would take you below 100knts, so as long as you're able to run the boat at Flank, you're gold...

BD why don't you tell these guys what its like to work with 50knts across the deck, it ain't no fun for the fuelers, ordies, etc. etc... no fun at all, LOL!
 

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BD why don't you tell these guys what its like to work with 50knts across the deck, it ain't no fun for the fuelers, ordies, etc. etc... no fun at all, LOL!

You have to get use to it. Because every time, I mean every time that ship is turned into the wind 30+ knots will be coming across that bow. That is needed for lift to launch those birds. If there not enough wind speed the ship will put the power to the propellers and make 30+ knots across the bow. You just learn to lean into it. . Plus the other stuff you gotta keep an eyeball peed for. Jet exhaust, roto was, taxiing aircraft.etc..etc...etc..
 

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Release Date: 4/22/2019 4:18:00 PM

From U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. 6th Fleet Public Affairs
MEDITERRANEAN SEA (NNS) -- The John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group (CSG) joined the Abraham Lincoln CSG in the Mediterranean, providing a unique opportunity for two strike groups to work together alongside key allies and partners in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operations.

This is the first time that two carriers have operated in the Mediterranean at the same time since the summer of 2016, when the Dwight D. Eisenhower and Harry S. Truman CSGs were deployed to the region simultaneously.

“It’s a rare opportunity to train with two carrier strike groups together,” Vice Adm. Lisa M. Franchetti, commander of U.S. 6th Fleet, said. “Dual carrier operations here in the Mediterranean showcase the inherent flexibility and scalability maritime forces provide to the joint force, while demonstrating our ironclad commitment to the stability and security of the region.”

During their deployments, the CSGs will work with a number of our regional allies and partners at sea, creating opportunities for high-end maritime integration in a challenging environment while improving collective proficiency and interoperability.

“These combined operations will enhance combat readiness and interoperability with key allies and partners, and ensure our forces are better prepared to carry out a full range of missions, anytime, anywhere, around the world,” Franchetti said.

USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) deployed from Naval Base Kitsap-Bremerton, Oct. 15, 2018, while USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) deployed from Naval Station Norfolk, April 1, 2019. The carriers are in the midst of a homeport shift, with Stennis eventually heading to Norfolk and Lincoln heading to San Diego.

U.S. 6th Fleet, headquartered in Naples, Italy, conducts the full spectrum of joint and naval operations, often in concert with allied and interagency partners, in order to advance U.S. national interests and security and stability in Europe and Asia.
 

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MEDITERRANEAN SEA (April 24, 2019) The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) sails with the Abraham Lincoln and John C. Stennis carrier strike groups as they conduct carrier strike force operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet. Together, the strike groups will complete high-end warfighting training, enhancing interoperability with key allies and partners in the European theater. (U.S. Navy video by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Brian M. Wilbur/Released)

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MEDITERRANEAN SEA (April 24, 2019) The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) sails with the Abraham Lincoln and John C. Stennis carrier strike groups as they conduct carrier strike force operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet. (U.S. Navy video by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Brian M. Wilbur/Released)

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MEDITERRANEAN SEA (April 24, 2019) An MH-60S Sea Hawk helicopter from the "Nightdippers" of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 5 prepares to take off from the flight deck of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) as it sails alongside the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) during a photo exercise. The Abraham Lincoln and John C. Stennis carrier strike groups are conducting carrier strike force operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet. Together, the strike groups will complete high-end warfighting training, enhancing interoperability with key allies and partners in the European theater. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Jessica Paulauskas/Released)

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MEDITERRANEAN SEA (April 24, 2019) The Abraham Lincoln and John C. Stennis carrier strike groups conduct carrier strike force operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet. Together, the strike groups will complete high-end warfighting training, enhancing interoperability with key allies and partners in the European theater. (U.S. Navy photos by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Brian M. Wilbur/Released)

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Anyone got any updates pics or info on the new INS Vikrant? Just been fruitlessly searching the net and it seems no one in India has either a camera, phone or internet connection based on the apparent blackout! Best I could find was this post launch pic of her alongside the fitting out berth:
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Jan 17, 2019
Dec 8, 2018
I think more interesting is why the Wasp leaves that quickly (I mean the real, yet unknown, reason)
now inside
USS America Will Head to Japan to Serve as Next Forward-Deployed Amphibious Flagship
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“[Wasp] is coming around because of maintenance – her time in [the Forward-Deployed Naval Force] is over out in Japan, America‘s going out there. She’s coming back because of maintenance and dock loading and stuff like that,” Vice Adm. Richard Brown, commander of Naval Surface Forces and Naval Surface Force Pacific, said ...
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USS America Will Allow Japan-Based Marines to Bring More MV-22 Ospreys to Sea
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The Japan-based 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit is already considering how
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(LHA-6) will affect operations in the forward-deployed amphibious force.

An early look indicates America’s larger flight deck may make up for the ship’s lack of a well deck, 31st MEU Commanding Officer Col. Robert Brodie said this week – but partly because the 31st MEU emphasizes light, maneuverable gear and does not operate tanks in its ground force.

Brodie, speaking to the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies on April 23, said the new ship will still accommodate the full complement of people and gear the MEU wants to bring with it to sea but that leadership will have to be a bit imaginative to work through what those operations look like without a well deck on the amphibious assault ship. The current big-deck the MEU uses, USS Wasp (LHD-1), has room for three landing craft air cushions (LCACs) or two landing craft utilities (LCUs), and swapping Wasp for America next year will take away that ability to move people, vehicles and supplies ashore by surface connector.

“What that means for us is that we will have the America-class ship that is coming out, and that does not have a well deck. So we’re right now not ready to talk about what that means, but we’re thinking through conceptually how we’re going to configure our force to be able to maintain our crisis response capabilities out there,” Brodie said.

31st MEU was the first to go to sea with the new F-35B Joint Strike Fighter, which is larger than the AV-8B Harrier it replaces. While the MEU is looking at
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, it’s also looking at more basic things like “working through deck space issues, so I’m right now kind of building some knowledge base with the Navy in how to spot aircraft.”

As a result of trying to learn how to launch and recover, move around and maintain the larger aircraft on the flight deck, Brodie said he only brought 10 MV-22B Ospreys with him on the last float instead of the usual 12 to allow more space as the Navy-Marine team learned how to best handle the F-35B.

With Wasp, “we’re going with two less assault support aircraft. The America-class ship is a bigger flight deck, it will facilitate the full 12, complement of 12 Ospreys and four [CH-53E heavy-lift helicopters], so I’m comfortable with where the lift is going to be for the ground combat element without that well deck but those aircraft to complement it.”

Overall, Wasp on its last deployment went with 10 Ospreys, six F-35Bs, four CH-53Es and three LCACs. America would lose the three LCACs and instead take two more Ospreys.

Though that change will necessitate revisiting operational plans, the additional Ospreys will be important to support F-35B operations: the Osprey will be the primary mover of spare F-35 engines to and from ships, being the only aircraft with both the carrying capacity and the range to support this mission in many cases.

Though the additional Ospreys in lieu of LCACs and LCUs will work well for 31st MEU, it may prove a little more challenging for a MEU operating aboard fellow America-class ship Tripoli (LHA-7), which will commission later this year. If a U.S.-based MEU wanted to bring its tanks, it would have to load them all onto the smaller amphibious transport dock rather than the amphibious assault ship, since the tanks have to be transported ashore via surface connector.
 
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Jan 17, 2019
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USS America Will Allow Japan-Based Marines to Bring More MV-22 Ospreys to Sea
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Lack of Well Deck Seen as a Wash for LHA USS America
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The transfer of the new amphibious assault ship USS America to the Forward-Deployed Naval Force (FDNF) next fiscal year will bring a change in capabilities to the 7th Fleet’s amphibious ready group, but the Marines that will go on patrol on America will be able to adjust to the changes and maintain a similar level of combat capability.

America (LHA 6) is scheduled to replace USS Wasp (LHD 1) as the “bog-deck” amphib deployed to Sasebo, Japan. The major difference in the two ships is that America lacks a well deck, a feature on all earlier LHAs and LHDs that can float landing craft and amphibious assault vehicles.

The America and its soon-to-be commissioned sister ship Tripoli were designed to be more aviation-centric. The trend was reversed with the third ship of the class, the future Bougainville, which will have a well deck.

The Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), the 31st MEU, which deploys on the ships of the Sasebo-based amphibious ships, differs from other MEUs in that it does not include M1A1 tanks in its load-out.

“I do not possess tanks, because we don’t have tanks on Okinawa,” said Col. Robert Brodie, commander of the 31st MEU, speaking April 23 to the Potomac Institute in Arlington of the 31st MEU’s patrol in the Western Pacific in early 2019.

With somewhat of a lighter load, the 31st MEU will have less of a problem handling the unit’s equipment of the America-centric amphibious ready group (ARG).

Brodie said his staff already is looking at the optimum way to configure the MEU’s equipment load-out to best operate from the America. The ship’s lack of a well deck means that three fewer landing craft — LCACs or LCUs — would be carried by the ships of the ARG.

Brodie is optimistic that the increased aviation capacity of the America could make up for the loss of a well deck. The America would more easily accommodate 12 MV-22B Osprey tiltrotor aircraft rather than the 10 that the Wasp typically carried. The two additional Ospreys would add to the overall airlift capability that could make up for some of the loss of lift by landing craft, especially without the requirement to accommodate tanks.

The America’s increased aviation capacity also would enable the America to deploy with perhaps as many as eight F-35C Lightning II strike fighters instead of six as on the Wasp. The additional MV-22Bs also would make the eventual installation of an aerial refueling hose on one or more of the MV-22Bs a plus for the range and endurance of the F-35.

The air combat element of the 31st MEU also normally deploys with four CH-53E Super Stallion heavy-lift helicopters on board the Wasp, in addition to the three Navy MH-60S armed helicopters. The four AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters and three UH-1Y Venom utility helicopters are normally staged on the amphibious platform dock ship and dock landing ship of the ARG.
 
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