Aircraft Carriers III

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in case you didn't know Carl Vinson Strike Group Departs for Deployment to Western Pacific
Posted: January 5, 2018
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USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) departs San Diego January 5th for the Western Pacific in support of maritime security operations and theater security cooperation efforts. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Omar A. Dominquez/Released)

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French Rafale Fighters to Deploy on Carrier USS George H.W. Bush This Spring
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France is sending 350 sailors and naval aviators to deploy with a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier this spring as their nuclear-powered carrier finishes scheduled maintenance, French officials told USNI News.

The April to May deployment will occur just before France’s aircraft carrier FS Charles de Gaulle (R91) is expected to complete a major maintenance period which started in 2015. The aircrews will do carrier qualifications aboard USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77), but the intent is to accomplish more than qualifications or cross-deck operations, Capt. Jean-Emmanuel Roux de Luze, French Naval Attaché to the U.S. told USNI News.

“We want to demonstrate our ability to integrate with U.S. military services,” Roux de Luze said. “We want to show we do maintenance, demonstrate we can load weapons.”

French Navy Dassault Rafale M fighters and Northop Grumman E-2C Hawkeye aircraft will at first fly with U.S. airwings out of Naval Air Station Oceana, in Virginia Beach. French sailors will work with their U.S. counterparts maintaining the aircraft, Rouz de Luze said. The unspecified French forces will then board Bush and operate as part of the air wing.

The agreement to send French aircraft, crews, and sailors to the U.S. was first announced in December, when U.S. Navy Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson met in Paris with his French counterpart French Navy Chief of Staff Adm. Christophe Prazuck, first reported by website
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While speaking at the Surface Navy Association’s International Navies Luncheon Wednesday, Rouz de Luze, said joint operations build trust among navies by demonstrating each can work with the other. With the U.S. Navy, he said the technology used, procedures, communications equipment are all basically the same.

“Today we are 95 percent interoperable,” Rouz de Luze said. “Our concerns in our navy is in 10 years, in 15 years will we be able to work like that.”

The U.S. Navy, though, in its push to ensure it is always technologically ahead of any near-peers, is the leader in developing new systems. Rouz de Luze said militarily, the U.S. Navy can go alone.

“Due to its size and power, the US Navy does not really need us and not really need help of other navies,” Rouz de Luze said.

But politically, Rouz de Luze said the U.S. needs to be part of a coalition or NATO operation because doing so give legitimacy to an action. For everyone else, Rouz de Luze said coalitions are necessary for both political and military.

“The French Navy, we know in the future we will work with other navies, so you need to know how to operate with other navies,” Rouz de Luze said.

The French have been an active contributor to the anti-ISIS coalition air strikes via the French military’s Opération Chammal since 2014.

In 2015, the French deployed de Gaulle shortly following the deadly ISIS attacks on the offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris. The carrier deployed on two other occassions to the Middle East in support of the anti-ISIS mission.
 

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French Rafale Fighters to Deploy on Carrier USS George H.W. Bush This Spring

France is sending 350 sailors and naval aviators to deploy with a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier this spring as their nuclear-powered carrier finishes scheduled maintenance, French officials told USNI News.

The April to May deployment will occur just before France’s aircraft carrier FS Charles de Gaulle (R91) is expected to complete a major maintenance period which started in 2015. The aircrews will do carrier qualifications aboard USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77), but the intent is to accomplish more than qualifications or cross-deck operations, Capt. Jean-Emmanuel Roux de Luze, French Naval Attaché to the U.S. told USNI News.
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Very rare the 3 E-2C !
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Thursday at 7:00 AM
now noticed
French Rafale Fighters to Deploy on Carrier USS George H.W. Bush This Spring
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related:
US Navy carrier is about to get French treatment
Croissants, espresso and dark chocolate are among the things 350 French sailors and naval aviators may miss when they deploy with a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier this spring.

From April to May, French aircrews will work aboard the George H.W. Bush, according to
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, while their own carrier, the FS Charles de Gaulle, completes a mandatory maintenance period. The deployment has the additional goal of international cooperation and building trust among navies.

“Today we are 95 percent interoperable,” Capt. Jean-Emmanuel Roux de Luze, French Naval Attaché to the U.S., told USNI News. “We want to demonstrate our ability to integrate with U.S. military services.”

It’s a political move more than a militaristic one.

Militarily, the U.S. Navy remains technologically superior. But politically, international missions may benefit from joint operations.

“Due to its size and power, the U.S. Navy does not really need us and not really need help of other navies,” Rouz de Luze told USNI. “The French Navy, we know in the future we will work with other navies, so you need to know how to operate with other navies,”

The French aviators may have some difficulty adjusting, though — the carrier Bush doesn’t feature a single bar for its sailors,
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MoD official defends naval part cannibalisation on warships
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Stephen Lovegrove, the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Defence. said:

“I wouldn’t rule out the chances of that, there are certain bits of equipment on the Prince of Wales which may find themselves being repurposed for use on the Queen Elizabeth. I think that would be potentially a perfectly reasonable thing to do if it were not to compromise the operational schedules of either of the two boats.”
 
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F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread Yesterday at 8:39 AM
F-35 related part of
5 Things to Know about Wasp’s Move to Japan
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What were some of the renovations made to Wasp in order to accommodate the F-35 JSF capacity?

Wasp has undergone significant renovations that make it possible to land, maintain and fully utilize this fifth generation aircraft. From changes to her flight deck to hangar bay to secure spaces for processing data from the aircraft. The pairing of Wasp and the F-35B will increase the ability to conduct her primary mission of amphibious operations that includes humanitarian assistance and stability operations in a crisis.
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F-35B ready USS Wasp arrives at new homeport in Sasebo, Japan
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US Navy’s amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1) arrived in Sasebo, Japan, on January 14, to become the forward-deployed amphibious assault ship in 7th Fleet.

USS Wasp, which has undergone significant upgrades to be able to land and launch the US Marine Corp’s F-35B Joint Strike Fighter, completed the 28,400-mile journey after getting underway from Norfolk, Va. in late August.

Wasp departed Norfolk Aug. 30 and was diverted a few days later to the Caribbean to assist the US Virgin Islands and Dominica in the wake of Hurricane Irma. The amphibious assault ship then provided assistance to Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria, a Category 5 storm regarded as the worst natural disaster in the history of the American commonwealth island.

“The arrival of USS Wasp represents an increase in military capability and a commitment to our partners and allies for security and stability in the region,” said Capt. Colby Howard, Wasp commanding officer. “Paired with the F-35B Joint Strike Fighter, we remain ready to execute the full range of military operations from crisis response to disaster relief.”

Once USS Wasp becomes part of the US 7th Fleet, it is scheduled to deploy as part of a new, improved, Expeditionary Strike Group that will combine a three-ship Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) with a three ship guided-missile destroyer surface action group (SAG).

The F-35B is scheduled to embark on Wasp when the amphibious assault ship and MEU deploy in 2018 for regularly scheduled regional patrol.

In addition to being modernized to accommodate the Marine Corps variant of the Joint Strike Fighter (F-35B), USS Wasp recently also received upgrades to the combat systems suite to include upgrades to MK 2 Ship Self Defense System, SPQ-9B horizon search radar, MK 57 NATO Sea Sparrow missile system, and upgrades to the shipboard local area network (LAN) and data link capability.

Commissioned in July 1989, Wasp has served on numerous deployments throughout the world, including a 6-month deployment to the Middle East in 2016.

Wasp’s predecessor, the USS Bonhomme Richard, has been forward-deployed to Sasebo, Japan since April 2012 and will relocate to San Diego following a regularly scheduled patrol.

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noticed HMS Queen Elizabeth to get first F-35 jets this year
January 15, 2018
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Merlin helicopters were the first aircraft to begin flying from HMS Queen Elizabeth and they will soon be followed by F-35 jets in Autumn this year.

Here at the UK Defence Journal we really point this out often but we’re getting closer and closer to ending the ‘carrier with no planes’ nonsense that appears all over social media so we’re happy to restate this once again.

HMS Queen Elizabeth is expected to start fixed-wing flight trials with three or more F-35Bs off the eastern coast of the US around September this year. A fantastic info-graphic created by SaveTheRoyalNavy
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and details the timeline of the programme.

In order to prepare for operating from HMS Queen Elizabeth, Royal Navy sailors have also trained alongside their US Navy counterparts on the flight deck of the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp. Last year, the Royal Navy sent six Sailors to integrate into Wasp’s flight deck operations to prepare them for their upcoming Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers.

Royal Navy sailor Richard Clark said:

“Living with one another is good for integration, so when we work together, when we have your aircraft come to our flight decks, and vice versa, we’ll have a bit more awareness of how we each operate. It helps us work with you better on different platforms when we need to. This is the first group of guys who are not 1st Classes. Some of them have never been on a ship before, so for the younger guys, it’s good for them to get experience.”

Recent F-35 trials aboard the USS Wasp weren’t just an operational test for the United States Marine Corps, with much of the data produced being used to inform the USMC’s declaration of initial operating capability but also for the United Kingdom. UK personnel were fully embedded in the USS Wasp trials and will use the data gathered from this event, future trials and operational deployments to support the UK’s flying trials aboard HMS Queen Elizabeth off the US coast in Spring next year.

British F-35 pilots also recently embarked on the USS America for at-sea developmental testing phase 3 (known as DT), the last trial that paves the way for the US Marine Corps to deploy the jet operationally on amphibious assault ships. BAE Systems test pilot Pete Wilson said about the upcoming trials on the HMS Queen Elizabeth:

“This will not be a DT phase. Testing on the Queen Elizabeth will be like DTs 1, 2 and 3 combined. We don’t need to use fully instrumented aircraft; we already understand most of the loads on the aircraft systems, as we have tested that during earlier tests.”

HMS Prince of Wales will take over F-35 trials to allow HMS Queen Elizabeth to return to dock for her routine re-certification work.

Former Captain of the vessel Ian Groom told media that HMS Prince of Wales will need to be delivered during 2019 to allow flight trails to continue whilst Queen Elizabeth is undergoing inspection in dry dock. Quoted in Janes, Groom said:

“There is a further set of fixed-wing flying trials needed and HMS Prince of Wales has to carry them out. HMS Queen Elizabeth’s re-certification period in 2019 means we need HMS Prince of Wales then.”

What will the vessels carry when in operational service?
The term now used for the carriers embarked squadrons is ‘Carrier Air Wing’ (CVW). The vessels are capable of deploying a variety of aircraft in large numbers, up to a maximum in the upper fifties in surge conditions. Captain Jerry Kyd, commander of HMS Queen Elizabeth, commented on the initial deployment and the gradual increase in air wing numbers:

“We are constrained by the F-35 buy rate even though that was accelerated in SDSR in 2015, so initial operating capability numbers in 2020 are going to be very modest indeed. We will flesh it out with helicopters, and a lot depends on how many USMC F-35s come on our first deployment in 2021. But by 2023, we are committed to 24 UK jets onboard, and after that it’s too far away to say.”

In 2023, the UK will have 42 F-35 aircraft, with 24 being front-line fighters and the remaining 18 will be used for training (at least 5 on the OCU), be in reserve or in maintenance.

In addition to the joint force of Royal Air Force and Royal Navy F-35Bs and their pilots, the air wing is expected to be composed of a ‘Maritime Force Protection’ package of nine anti-submarine Merlin HM2 and four or five Merlin for airborne early warning; alternatively a ‘Littoral Manoeuvre’ package could include a mix of RAF Chinooks, Army Apaches, Merlin HC4 and Wildcat HM2.

The Crowsnest AEW&C aircraft will come from a number of the embarked Merlins (any of which can be fitted with the sensor package), the number again scaling with requirements.

We understand that vessel would still carry at least one F-35 squadron aboard in such circumstances to offer air defence as well as support to the helicopter assault activities.

A source we spoke to, currently flying the jet, explained to us that the vessels will deploy with the number and type of aircraft required for a specific deployments:

“Where F-35B is based is entirely down to the most suitable basing option for the tasks/missions is being sent to do. If that’s a well-founded host nation base, great; if it’s the Carrier, great; if it’s an austere location, fine. Range, logistics and other ‘enablers’ such as AAR and connectivity will determine what’s the best option.”

The Queen Elizabeth class mark a change from expressing carrier power in terms of number of aircraft carried, to the number of sortie’s that can be generated from the deck. The class are not the largest class of carrier in the world but they are most likely the smallest and least expensive carrier the Royal Navy could build which still have the advantages that large carriers offer.
 

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Croissants, espresso and dark chocolate are among the things 350 French sailors and naval aviators may miss when they deploy with a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier this spring
I doubt they will be missing to much of that. US carriers have some of the best equipped dinning facilities in the US Military, and as new generations have joined the USN more demands have been placed on the quality of the food served. Croissants may not be up to true Parisian standards but they can probably pass French military standards. More and more choosy American coffee drinkers have placed demands on onboard coffee makers to expand there options to include espresso and capachinos of Starbucks quality. Dark chocolate may come up short but I bet the ship's crew will find ways to make there French guest feel at home. About the only thing I think the French squadron should fear is the American MRE.... but then most Americans fear those.
 

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Croissants, espresso and dark chocolate are among the things 350 French sailors and naval aviators may miss when they deploy with a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier this spring

I doubt they will be missing to much of that. US carriers have some of the best equipped dinning facilities in the US Military, and as new generations have joined the USN more demands have been placed on the quality of the food served. Croissants may not be up to true Parisian standards but they can probably pass French military standards. More and more choosy American coffee drinkers have placed demands on onboard coffee makers to expand there options to include espresso and capachinos of Starbucks quality. Dark chocolate may come up short but I bet the ship's crew will find ways to make there French guest feel at home. About the only thing I think the French squadron should fear is the American MRE.... but then most Americans fear those.

And ofc French wine :p :D
 
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