Aircraft Carriers III

Jeff Head

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The Indian Navy carrier, INS Viraat, R22, was originally the HMS Hermes, R12, built by the UK as a Centaur class carrier.

She was laid down in 1944, but with the end of World War II, was not launched until 1953...and ultimately not commissioned in the Royal Navy until 1959 as the HMS Hermes, R12.

As such she served with distinction in the Royal Navy until 1984. She was actually scheduled to be decommissioned in 1982, but then Argentina invaded and took the Falkland Islands. Hermes was then made the flagship of the British force sent to the south Atlantic to retake the Falklands. She served with distinction in that role...and was ultimately decommissioned in 1984.

India bought her and she was commissioned into the Indian Navy as INS Viraat, R22, on May 12, 1987.

So she has been serving in the Indian Navy now for 28 years. She served the Royal Navy from 1959 until 1984, a total of 25 years. Her total service time is now 53 years, though she herself is now 56 years old. she will add another year to that total.

By comparison, the longest serving US aircraft carrier was the USS Enterprise, CVN-65, which was commissioned on November 25, 1961 and decommissioned on December 1, 2012. She served just over 51 years.

Viraat is now scheduled to become a museum ship for India. That is good news. She will make a wonderful museum ship, like the
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Of those five US museum carriers, the longest serving were the:

USS Lexington, CV-16: 48 years
USS Midway, CV-41: 47 years

The super carrier, USS Kitty Hawk, CV-63, served for 48 years. The nuclear carrier Nimitz, CVN-68, has been serving since 1972, a total now of 43 years.

Viraat has served longer than any of them, and, as stated, will add another year to that total before she is retired.
 

Jeff Head

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GREAT picture of the Spanish Navy's Juan Carlos, L61. Their nomenclature calls it a Strategic Projection Ship...but it would normally be called an LHD...err, with a ski-jump.

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This picture is a great PR pic showing her with eight Matador Harrier IIs on deck.

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navyreco

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Remember that LoR supposedly sent by Indian MoD last week with 1 week delay...
Turned out to be Indian media BS (one again)...

I was at a press conference with DCNS CEO yesterday and I asked him about it:

During the press conference, Navy Recognition asked Hervé Guillou about the Letter of Request supposedly submitted last week by the Indian Ministry of Defense for IAC-2 (indigenous aircraft carrier number 2). DCNS CEO started his answer with humor: "The mail must be slow, we are still waiting for it". Hervé Guillou then explained "It is clear that India has an aircraft carrier need and globaly a need for about 200 new vessels of all types until 2030. But regarding the aircraft carrier, the program is not as advanced as reported in the Indian press. We are discussing with the Indian Navy and it is clear that DCNS is at the forefront of the few companies able to be a supplier in this field. We are very interested in this matter, but it has not started yet".
Finally, asked about the local partners, Herbé Guillou explained that DCNS has already worked closely for other projects with Reliance (Pipavav) and Mazagon Dock Limited.
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at least; :) the entire audience laughed with his initial response.
 

navyreco

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Pretty cool Fan Art: Jolly Rogers Rafale
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Jeff Head

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What Sqn American guys ;)
BTW, nice fan art pic of the Rafael.

The "Jolly Rodgers" are the US Navy Strike Fighter Squadron VFA-103. They currently fly F/A-18F Super Hornets and are based at Naval Air Station Oceana. They are part of Carrier Air Wing Seven (CVW-7) and are currently attached to the USS Harry Truman, CVN-75.

I built a
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of those bad boys. Here's som,e pics of her:

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And here's the real deal:

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bd popeye

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Actually several squadrons have donned the name "Jolly Rogers"..

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Prepare to be somewhat confused

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Most aviation enthusiasts think of VF-84 as the Jolly Rogers (see patch below), but the squadron designation and the name have not always been synonymous. It's the biggest example of the US Navy's confusion on the history of its squadrons.

It started with VF-17, the first Jolly Rogers, in January 1943. They flew the F4U Corsair.

VF-17 was broken up and reformed again in April 1944, this time flying the F6F Hellcat. The combined war record of both the original and reformed VF-17 squadrons made it the highest scoring Navy squadron of WWII with 23 aces and 313 victories.

In 1946, the squadron was redesignated VF-5B, and in 1948 it became VF-61. By April 1959, the squadron was disestablished.

The First Fighter Squadron 84:

In May 1944, VF-84 was formed as the Wolf Gang. Like VF-17, it also flew the F4U Corsair. Because of a kamikaze attack on its carrier, the USS Bunker Hill (CV-17), the squadron came to an abrupt end on May 11, 1945.

Though it was reformed as an F6F Hellcat squadron, the war ended before it was assigned to carrier duty. The squadron was disestablished in October 1945 but posted a war record of 92 victories with 9 combat aces.

The Second VF-84

The Korean War saw the formation of Reserve Fighter Squadron VF-921, the Sidewinders, in 1951. In February 1953, they were redesignated VF-84. July 1955 saw the squadron redesignated once again to VA-86.

The Second Jolly Rogers

When VF-84 became VA-86 in July 1955, an entirely new Fighter Squadron 84 squadron was born at NAS Oceana flying the FJ-3 Fury. It was originally known as the Vagabonds.

When the original Jolly Rogers was disestablished as VF-61 in April 1959, its wing commander became commander of the new Fighter Squadron 84 at Oceana. He requested that the new squadron take on the Jolly Rogers name. His request was approved in April 1960.

The new Jolly Rogers first aircraft was the F-8C Crusader, which they flew from 1959 to 1964. Next up was the vaunted F-4 Phantom II (1964-1976).

Their last aircraft, and the one most thought of as the Jolly Rogers, was the popular F-14 Tomcat. Photo above of an F-14A Tomcat (160380) was taken by Horace Sagnor in June 1977 at Hamilton, ON, Canada.

They flew the Tomcat until 1995 when the squadron was disestablished. Photo below shows their retirement patch.

When the VF-84 was deactivated in 1995, the VF-103 Sluggers changed their name and insignia to that of the Jolly Rogers. They currently fly the F/A-18F Super Hornet out of NAS Oceana

I hope you guys caught all that!
 

Jeff Head

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Actually several squadrons have donned the name "Jolly Rogers"..

Prepare to be somewhat confused

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I hope you guys caught all that!
GREAT history, Popeye. Thanks!

Yes, the Jolly Rodgers have a long and distinguished of voer 72 years...as well as a confusing history.

I do note that they flew both the Vought F4U and the Vought F-8C.

The Tomcats had the longest history at 18 years at the time, but now the Super Hornets are pushing 20 years and have the longest Jolly Rodgers serving record of all.
 
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