2019 National Day Military Parade

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    Unfortunately, proving that something hasn't been influenced by another is far more difficult that proving the opposite ... in fact once again he didnt even say 'influences were present' rather 'may be present'. Call me pedantic if wish, but to a certain extent you are putting your own interpretation on his words and extrapolating to worst case.
     
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    Oh I'm gonna get another beating for this but here goes. Firstly who is the 'they' who dont have to deal with this shit? Secondly, quite frankly I couldn't give a toss whether the drone (or whatever) under the Tarp was a copy of something else or not ... if it is call it out for what it out as such, if it isnt a copy , then all well and good. He is saying that it MAY have been influenced by an earlier design. it is highly unlikely that you can look at any one product/design/invention whatever, and NOT see influences that may have inspired it.

    We don't know that it wasn't inspired by something else or to what extent; we can suggest that it was derived totally in a vacuum with no reference to anything that had gone before it, but that would be as ridiculous as Rogoway insisting that it was a copy (which he doesnt).

    We do all know that Chinese Aerospace sector is very proficient, but to say that China has produced all its technology/weapons/aircraft totally divorced from outside influence or inspiration would be false. As false as it would be to claim for any country.
    BTW I am not defending Rogoway, I just find knee-jerk defensive reactions laughable. This Forum should be better than that.

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    True, I will only say influences of the MiG-21 may be present in the F-22. That way I’m being as authentic as he is.
     
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    I guess an upcoming parade has caught someone's attention...


     
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    Trump tweets:

    "McRaven, what a loser and a lightweight and now the fake news media are talking about what he said. Bad people. Sad. But nobody knows more about technology than me; believe me I know technology like you wouldn't believe. My son, who's a genius by the way, can use this thing; it's called a computer! I have the best technology people. And I have a feeling that right after I'm re-elected, we'll see Chinese technology fall, but that wouldn't happen under Sleepy Joe or Pocahontas, no, they'd hand it all to China and Chinese technology would go like woopsh! But not under me. As long as I'm president, the United States will have the best technology in everything. President for life?"
     
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    I read the "quote" before I read "Trump responds", and for a moment I really thought he said that.
     
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    I saw long distance pictures of the wings to the hypersonic drone but they looked flat...

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    Why does female infantry have different boots?
     
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    Our panties are nice and unbunched thanks for the concern. I think some of us here are not offended by the comment as you may seem to think. We just wanted to point out in our own way how the whole China cannot possibly innovate narrative must be kept alive at every turn. This has nothing to do with the points you mentioned. You're simply taking the big picture there and while it's all correct, it has no bearing on the posts which are ridiculing Rogoway and western journalism's insistence at mentioning or hinting at connections between anything Chinese and western. They continue to propagate this propaganda everywhere so it makes it easy for the masses to accept black, grey, and white propaganda. Of course things like is only one ingredient out of many.
     
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    Congratulations to Rick Joe (Bltizo), you're mentioned in TV.

     
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