Future Aircraft Carrier Thread; Designs, Ideas, Brainstorms

[no_name]

I think VTOL fighters would be useful for submarine aircraft carriers. But then you'll have to make the deck heat resistant.

Though submarines may sit too low that waves may be a problem.

 

[shen]

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An interesting discussion on the pros/cons and many different proposals of small carriers. I like this proposal.

" As I see it a cruiser sized hull, similar to a Shirane in general arrangement, with modern six inch guns (155's for the soulless!) in A and B position a raised deckhouse aft of them with a large scale strike-length (80 cell) Mk41 VLS farm, superstructure, large hangar and a Chinook-capable flight deck for a 5/6 airframe NH90 airgroup would be able to perform concurrent land-attack, AAW, ASW and modest EMF insertion missions with far greater efficiency than a mini-CV could achieve and do it without the expense of the fastjets and without the need for screening units!. "

and I bring you the big gun! the final word in any online military forums. Sparky!

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[Jura The idiot]

Re: Future Aircraft Carrier Thread; Desings, Ideas, Brainstorms

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So, I bought Tamiya's 1/350 Scale I-400 Special Edition model and should get it in about ten days. It has a see-through side for the hanger, photo etched metal parts for the sensors, railing, and the catapult, metal (brass) props and shafts, and includes four aircraft and forty-eight 1/350 scale personnel to place on deck.
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I just realized the airplane, Aichi M6A

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, was remarkable, too. But I wonder why there are four of them included in the kit (three were carried by an I-400), so that you could have three in the hangar and one flying around?

 

[Jeff Head]

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I just realized the airplane, Aichi M6A

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, was remarkable, too. But I wonder why there are four of them included in the kit (three were carried by an I-400), so that you could have three in the hangar and one flying around?

They have a special little extra stand to display the fourth aircraft alone...while having three on the sub.

I will just build the sub and detail it, with one aircraft on the cat ready to launch, and the other two lined up in the hanger ready to come out in their turn...like this:

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Except mine will be a full hull version on its stand and not in a diorama like that.

 

[Jura The idiot]

On a submersible aircraft carrier of the future, land-attacking gun(s) should also be mounted!

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[Equation]

On a submersible aircraft carrier of the future, land-attacking gun(s) should also be mounted!

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It could, but it has to be very very rugid and strong enough to take on large water pressure especially on deeper dives without getting it crush or ever distorted. Another option is to have a pressurized elevator system that can raise the gun when the ship is on the surface and be lower down to into a hull compartment when the ship submerges. That way it won't be exposed to the all the salt water elements and pressure.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Its a little Old (2006 or so) but Some good food for thought.
[video=youtube_share;xo_jxJPjKzw]http://youtu.be/xo_jxJPjKzw[/video]

 

[Jura The idiot]

It could, but it has to be very very rugid and strong enough to take on large water pressure especially on deeper dives without getting it crush or ever distorted. Another option is to have a pressurized elevator system that can raise the gun when the ship is on the surface and be lower down to into a hull compartment when the ship submerges. That way it won't be exposed to the all the salt water elements and pressure.

I thought (but didn't say) the second option would be adopted. Maybe it could stay under the deck all the time and shoot vertically (the Advanced Gun System should have originally been operated this way ... and with a triangular barrel:

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[shen]

after doing some reading on the subject, it seems I was wrong that a fleet of small carriers can do all the jobs of super-carriers. it depends on what kind of missions the navy is expected to perform.
If you want carriers for power projection. ie, the kind of mission like what NATO did to Libya. You want big supercarriers. Nimitz size is probably optimal, the smallest you can get away with is probably the new QE carriers. Small carriers simply can't carry the fuel and munitions necessary to sustain high sortie rate over an extended campaign.
However, if the navy is only expected to perform sea control missions or sea denial, a fleet of small carriers may just be the answer.