Londo Molari
Junior Member
500 marines may be less than 150 tonnes, but there is no way 500 marines can fit on a Zubr!!?!
zubr completed?
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you never know, it's China after all. Have you seen how stuff their buses and trains are? (for example, during a school spring trip, they somehow managed to stuff two classes, almost 100 people in to a tiny bus that normally only carry about 25 people) Now I sure the Zubr is bigger than 5 tiny bus/large van, so it is possible, will it be comfortable, that's a different topic.
I have a strong feeling that within a few years we will see chinese zubr copies...they have always cloned everything they buy from the former USSR.
The question remains is, what is better for china: zubr hovercraft or more 071 LPD´s with LCAC? how cost-effective is the zubr? how likely is china to make far away landing operations with the 071/LCAC?
The question remains is, what is better for china: zubr hovercraft or more 071 LPD´s with LCAC? how cost-effective is the zubr? how likely is china to make far away landing operations with the 071/LCAC?
China doesn't need to clone it, as they already bought the blueprint and copyright in this deal. The first two zubrs would be produced in Ukraine, and the other two zubrs would be produced in China with Ukraine's assistance.
“大海”造船厂将负责登陆艇的建造工作并向中方提供有关该艇的全套技术资料，以便中国今后自行生产。该项合同的总价值为2.4亿美元，将足以维持“大海” 造船厂今后五年的生产。
“大海”造船厂将负责登陆艇的建造工作并向中方提供有关该艇的全套技术资料，以便中国今后自行生产。该项合同的总价值为2.4亿美元，将足以维持“大海” 造船厂今后五年的生产。
Looks like the PLAN thinks the answer is both.
I can think of several dozen islands in the South China Sea. And some day China may try to enforce its claim to the DYT islands.
the zubr is a major asset to the regional waters off china's coast, with some design modifications such as weight reduction materials to accommodate more fuel for extended range
MwRYum
Major
Doubtful...China isn't at the cutting edge of material technology, sure they can design world-class craft but without the needed fabrication and material technology to translate them into working units...in these fields, they still behind the ex-Soviet bloc, which is behind the West respectively.
Chinese materiel science in some ways is ahead of what the Russians are doing now, it is more a matter of investment than lack of technology or resources.
MwRYum
Major
It's not as simple as such, for all its worth it'd be more like throw a monkey wrench to a known equation - all the balance, weight distribution, stress loading, performance parameter will need to be re-examine and re-tested. More like building a newly designed craft.
Though China can still be benefited from the lesson learned and come up with a new equation themselves - like their surface vessels, adopting the contemporary European design and with Russian kits installed, while transiting to local designs.
The Zubr and the LPD/LCAC combo differs greatly in terms of usages, one still chained to a shore-based launch point while the latter can come from just about any direction - if the target is Taiwan, then it'd not be the traditional west coast of the island (which according to Taiwan sources, no longer suitable for amphibious landing due to acute erosion and massive concrete boulders used to check the erosion), but the east coast as well.
Slightly OT, but realistically you won't have any attacks on Taiwan's east coast. In the time it takes for naval vessels to round the northern or southern corner of the island, ground forces will have more than enough time to shift assets around to counter this move.