zubr completed?

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Interesting
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Basically, this is just saying that China signed a deal for 2 Zubrs built in Russia plus licensed production of Zubr. The first one is almost complete.

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Interestingly, this is from the Russians:
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SHIPYARDS TRY TO SHARE CHINESE ZUBR
These are: CB Almaz and FSUE Khabarovsk Shipyard
FSUE Rosoboronexport wwill renew the negotiation process with China about the construction of paratrooper ships Zubr. SHIPYARD ALMAZ AND KHABAROVSK SHIPYARD COMPETE FOR A GRAND ORDER ON CONSTRUCTING THE PARATROOPER SHIPS ZUBR FOR CHINA
Kommersant (St. Petersburg), February 8, 2006, p. EV
 

MIGleader

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China bought Zubrs? thats some major news. I thought it was never going to happen...

How much did china pay, and how many zubrs is it allowed to liscence produce. Are there any upgrades doen to these zubrs?
 

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originally, this was just a speculation by Kanwa, I think. I'm still not sure if this story is true or not.
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Lavi

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It would be quite interesting to see how an air-cushion craft would manage in a real war zone, I suppose the proppellers could be quite vulnerable. I feel it might be one of those projects which real value you don't know until it actually is battletested. The same goes for the US ACV's.
 

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I caught this on the news wire

Almaz plant to sign contract with China to build six Zubr class ships

ST. PETERSBURG. Sept 1 (Interfax) - St. Petersburg-based
shipbuilder Almaz will sign a contract with China on the construction of
six Zubr class assault hovercrafts, Leonid Grabovets, the director
general of the enterprise, told journalists on Friday.
"We are going to finish talks with China this year and sign a
contract with that country in 2007," he said.
The 540-tonne Zubr hovercraft can reach speeds of over 60 knots. It
is 57 meters long and 22.5 meters wide. The ship can carry 500 marines
and three tanks weighing 50 tonnes each. The hovercraft is armed with
two MS-227 missile launchers, with 66 rounds, and two AK-630M gun mounts
to protect the vessel from air attack.
The Almaz plant specializes in building military ships. It builds
ships and motorboats for the Russian navy and has participated in
international military cooperation for many years. The plant
successfully executed a contract to build three Zubr hovercrafts for the
Greek navy,
 

Shingy

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bangladesh said:
use RPG or LAW or LONG RANGE ROCKET
the proppeller will be screwed all of them

Is it not the fact, that they are so fast, its will be hard to hit them?
 

chicket9

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One rocket hit or not, I don't think these ships were designed to take a substantial beating as such. However, 60 knots is something PLAN probably would like to add, rather than having just 12 knot LCMs or huge vulnerable LSTs. With sufficient air cover and good countermeasures (and if those AK630s can take down an incoming missile or two), and coupled with the Zubr's speed, it should be able to quickly deliver SOF troops quite well.

Same thing with US LCACs. They too aren't tested in combat yet. In fact, LCAC's advantages are speed and can operate from amphib ships which the Zubr cannot, but I regard LCAC even more vulnerable considering it has no CIWS!
 

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Same thing with US LCACs. They too aren't tested in combat yet. In fact, LCAC's advantages are speed and can operate from amphib ships which the Zubr cannot, but I regard LCAC even more vulnerable considering it has no CIWS!

True enough. But LCAC's have air cover from Super Cobra's and Harriers. And in the next few years F-35 JSF. Also USMC/USN doctroine calls for amphibous landings to take place behind enemy lines to establish a base. And not to directly confront the enemey with a "D-Day" type amphibous landing.
 

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Same thing with US LCACs. They too aren't tested in combat yet. In fact, LCAC's advantages are speed and can operate from amphib ships which the Zubr cannot, but I regard LCAC even more vulnerable considering it has no CIWS!
What'd you mean? Aren't Zubrs suppose to be about to launch from amphib ships?

This thing is probably too big to be stealthy for SOFs, but its fast speed and high payload makes deliveries quick and shocking.

The Marines might need it. I don't think all of their vehicles are amphibious.
 
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