Yak-38!??

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    Yak-38 VS. AV8B!??

    is yak-38 the only russian jump-jet??? who will win???
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    Re: Yak-36!??

    do you mean yak 38? the yak 141 freestyle is the a later one but its was only built in limited numbers as a prototype later it became the basis for the F 35 jsf in fact lockheed martin worked with yakolev to design the F 35
     
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    Re: Yak-36!??

    sorry i mean yak 38, yak 36 is The Freehand was powered by two non-afterburning Soyuz Tumanskiy/Khatchaturov R-27-300 turbojet engines (11,000 lb thrust each) mounted forward of and below the cockpit. They were fitted with louvered nozzles, which were vectorable through about 90?and exhausted at the center of gravity (c.g.), similar to the Bell X-14 (#18). Engine bleed air was used for reaction control nozzles at the tip of each wingtip fairing, on the tailcone, and at the tip of a ten foot long nose "probe." The overall length was 57.5 ft long (including the nose probe), with a wingspan of 27 ft. Empty weight was 12,346 lb, maximum take-off weight was 20,723 lb. The Yak-36 made its first untethered hover on 9 January 1963. From there, the flight envelope was slowly expanded, with a double transition from vertical take-off to forward flight and back to vertical landing performed on 16 September 1963. A number of retractable doors (including a large "apron" under the nose) were fitted to reduce hot gas reingestion. It was only capable of vertical take-offs and landings. The first public display was at the Soviet National Aviation day on 7 July 1967 at the Domodedovo Air Show. The Yak-36 was a technology demonstrator that eventually led to the operational Yak-38 Forger.
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    thats the first picture iv seen of a yak 36 never new much about it other then it was the predecesor to the yak 38 the
    yak 141 was the worlds only super sonic stovl/vtol aircraft in the world till the jsf programn
     
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    both the harrier and yak 38 have had appaling accident rates. both will be outdated really soon. the jsf is not a vtol, but is an stol.
     
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    the jsf can be a stol aircraft vtol with limited payload or stovl thats short takeoff vertical landing witch is how the the harrier is best oppereated
    the harrier only had accidents cause its pilots were porly trained
    in the end the yak 38 was a complete failure and the harrier became very sucsesfull
     
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    so wrong.
    the harrier is catch 22. it had a big accident rate, which led to minimal flight hours for pilots, which led to more accidents.

    the newer mcdonnel harrier is abit more reliable.
     
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    The orginal Hawker Siddly Harrier was a fast bird and was also VSTOL capable. The Yak Foger pictures with that Harrier GR7 was never very effective outside of use to kill NATO P-3s. It would have been an easy kill for 4th Generation aircraft as well as older fighters (Mirages III/V, EE Lightings etc)

    The newest Harriers AV-8B+ and Night Attack AV-8B are more attack aircraft than fighters. The FA-2 Sea Harrier being phased out of RN Service is still an excellent aircraft and is more of a strike fighter. The Indian Navy is very happy with them and the Blue Vixen radar.

    There will be three versions of the F-35.

    Conventional TOL for the USAF

    STOL for the US Navy (larger wings)

    VSTOL for the US Marine Corps

    While there have been many attempts, the only sucessful VSTOL aircraft has been the Harrier used by Spain,India,Italy,Britain, the US Marine Corps, the RAF and FAA and even Thailand. The aircraft IS very demanding and unforgiving on pilots. It is a maintenance nightmare but starting with the AV-8B and the GR4 in RAF service, the loss rate went down. All users put only the best pilots in the Harriers. I know many Harrier pilots and they love the jet. But there will be bonuses and setbacks for the transition to the JSF. One thing that has greatly helped the US pilots is the use of very capable flight simulators. I have been fortunate to have flown the F-16 ADF (my friends flew the F-14B, I got cheated!!). The simulators mean the pilots can get more time and experience without the risk of lost of life,aircraft and useage of fuel. Also use of the TAV-8B reduces the risk of accident. The Harrier still has the highest accident rate but it and the F16 are low level aircraft with single engines. All have proven capable in combat.
     
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    If this is a comparison between the Harrier and the Yak-38, it's kinda irrevelent now since the Yak-38's have been withdrawn from service.

    The latest Sea Harriers can use AIM-120 AMRRAMs and is vastly surperior to the Soviet Yak-38.
     
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    the sea harrier is old, no matter how much new gear you put on it. indias carrier is old, and so are its harriers. the harrier is capable, but is not very fast or manuverable to good degree. this would be the king of aircraft a chinese thales can shoot down.

    the yak 38 is nothing more than crap.
     

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