Z-10 thread

[Black Shark]

Okay, we need to sort something out.

The name of all PLA helicopters is designated Z-, not WZ-
Unfortunately various internet places like wikipedia have made it out like WZ- is the equivalent to the US's "AH-" which it isn't. "WZ-10" should be Z-10, and this thread title should actually be changed.
WZ is the prefix for turboshafts.

And what is the chinese codeword for it? Is it Qin?

 

[Blitzo]

And what is the chinese codeword for it? Is it Qin?

I don't understand your question.

 

[Black Shark]

I don't understand your question.

Apache, Viper, Crocodile, Tiger so what is the name for the Z-10?

 

[Blitzo]

Z-10 is Fierce Thunderbolt, Z-19 is Black Whirlwind, apparently official PLA nicknames too.

They sound better in Chinese.

 

[no_name]

I've always thought Z just means short for 'zhi' which is the first word for helo and W means 'Wu' or armoured in Chinese

 

[Blitzo]

Yes, Z stands for Zhi which is short for Zhi Sheng Ji, helicopter.

But officially the PLA do not differentiate between attack helicopters and non-attack helicopters, so everything that is a helicopter comes under the Z- prefix. Z-8, Z-9, Z-10, Z-18, Z-19, Z-20.

 

[Dizasta1]

For starters...AH-1Z has two Ge-700-401C engines, not just one, the early models of Cobras G/H/P/F had single engine later models like J/W and Z have two engines.

Also you do not summe up the shp of two engines, that is not how it works. Both engines only share the workload, but it does not summe up to the double of shp, workload stays the same and is shared between engines, even if you use 10 engines the shp stays the same only workload devides among the engines.

And the WZ-10,AH-1Z and AH-64E are very comparable, share similiar requirements and role of use and the technologies that are worked on also represent counterparts which most attack helicopters don't have only US/Russia and China share such technologies so far, with one minor development of Turkeys mildar radar, however the rest stay unique to those three countries of development of new technologies.

The AH-64 has a higher payload yes, but it has inferior range the AH-64E has range of 408km with its fuel tanks, not counting external or additional fuel tank (robby tank).

Thanks for the correction there! A mistake on my part.

You sure do know your onions, when it comes to attack helicopters. Nice to have come across you.

 

[Black Shark]

Thanks for the correction there! A mistake on my part.

You sure do know your onions, when it comes to attack helicopters. Nice to have come across you.

Thanks.

 

[by78]

The WZ-10 is much lighter compared to the AH-64. It is closer to an AH-1Z than a AH-64. Which is great for replacing the AH-1 fleet but not taking AH-64s head on.

Not exactly sure how weight or lack there of would prevent the Z-10 from going against the Apache toe-to-toe, since weapons and sensor packages matter much more.

Moreover, Z-10's and Apache's empty weights are very close. Their respective loaded and max takeoff weights differ more, but that most likely has to do with WZ-10's lack of suitable powerplant.

By the way, AH-1Z's empty weight is actually greater than of the Apache.

 

[tphuang]

Again, where do you get Z-10's empty weight from? Do you have any real data on this?